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Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2017 2:33 p.m. PST

Been seeing the toll grow through the day – reporting 2 this morning with 50 injured, then 20 was the number a few hours later and now it is 58 dead and 515 getting hospital treatment.

It's so bad that it seems unreal.

Personal logo Jlundberg Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2017 7:54 p.m. PST

Tragic – seems to be merely evil at work in a man with some significant skills and resources. I am glad he is dead – and earning his just reward, but wish we knew why.

PaddySinclair03 Oct 2017 1:45 a.m. PST

Call it what it is – an act of terror, the guy was a terrorist. It doesn't matter what his race, religion, political opinions or anything else were. There is no adequate justification for his actions, but there is more than ample opportunity for reflection on how and why it came to happen.

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP03 Oct 2017 2:56 a.m. PST

We may never know what his real motive was, It was obviously planned well in advance & I would call it a terrorist act. I pray for all involved in this tragic event.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian03 Oct 2017 4:19 a.m. PST

Some of the injured are from a 'stampede' as people fled.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP03 Oct 2017 5:02 a.m. PST

Well, perhaps factually true but I don't think that really matters, with respect, as they wouldn't have been stampeding if he hadn't been shooting at them.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP03 Oct 2017 9:55 a.m. PST

There are crazy crazies and there are terrorist crazies. For me "terrorism" has to have a cultural or political element. It creates problems in understanding motivation to use the term for any horrible event. Still early on this murderer to tell.

Von Trinkenessen03 Oct 2017 2:12 p.m. PST

Vaya con dios Las Vegas

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member04 Oct 2017 8:28 a.m. PST

He had significant resources, certainly,but I'd question "significant skills". Given the weaponry,pretty much off-the-shelf,with a couple of easy conversions, it wouldn't take much skill to do what he did.

I'm with Shag on "terrorism". Doesn't fit any definition I know. And,surprisingly, there's no Federal charge for "domestic terrorism":


As to psychosis, I'm curious about a possible genetic link,but I put my question on the Science board.

Great War Ace Inactive Member04 Oct 2017 6:04 p.m. PST

The upsetting quality of this above other mass shootings is the apparent lack of previous warning signs. No medications (so far as we know), no political or religious fanaticism, no angst displayed against the surrounding world, no outward indications of dangerous behavior at all. He was a gambler. Maybe his health was breaking down, his relationship with the last girlfriend failing, then to finish his interest in life, he started losing at gambling? Maybe he needed the gambling successes to offset his growing list of failures, and when the gambling failed, he was through. He must have been a psycho like his daddy, but kept it under control till the final denouement.

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