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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2017 2:32 p.m. PST

So watching Nikita for the first time (the newest one) it's quite ok. But I'm having seriously problems buying Maggie Q as a super trained assassin.

She has a horrible grip on her guns. She won't hit much holding her handguns like that.
Also what self respecting super Assasin doesn't know the difference between a clip and a magazine!!

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2017 3:49 p.m. PST

Guess what? No one cares.
No tv show is aimed at people who know anything.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2017 5:47 p.m. PST

I dunno, Winston. The 'clip'/'magazine' thing has
bothered me for a long time. Ever since I was
(somewhat painfully) taught the difference in Basic…

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2017 1:19 a.m. PST

Given the number of shooters in America. I would expect many of them will see wha I see. I think it would bother them too!

"Hey how come me that only fires at tin cans in the back yard know how to hold a gun proper. But I this super assassin chick doesn't? "

Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2017 1:59 a.m. PST

Tell that to all the gun owners who hold their pistols "gangsta" style …

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2017 8:24 a.m. PST

And probably don't hit that at which they 'aim'.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2017 10:37 a.m. PST

The point I keep making about movies and tv shows is that a minuscule portion of the population knows what is correct, and the shows aren't written for them.
"Accuracy" is so rare a commodity that is commented upon. That's bizarre and a bit sad. What is laughable is that shows like The Patriot were touted by studio publicity as "accurate".

Movies and tv shows featuring people who use guns are made by hypocrites who hate guns. I'm looking at you, Matt Damon. Brad Pitt. Consider that, and then think about how much they care about accuracy.
The ONLY recent exception I can think of is John Milius.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2017 11:44 a.m. PST

Because they want control doesn't equal hate guns.
But there are several movies and tv show that put actors through some sort of training. And Maggie Q holds her guns so badly even a Google picture search of "holding a pistol" would have improved her hold.

goragrad02 Sep 2017 2:27 p.m. PST

Lost cause Tango.

My sister-in-law hates it when I comment on the absurdity of these things while watching something on the tube. I still do, but I do know it won't change.

Recently read an early David Baldacci thriller. First hiccup was the steam shovels and earth movers digging up the crashed airliner.

Then after going on about how the heroine was a crack shot and expert with all sorts of guns and that her carry pistol was a Smith & Wesson Slim Nine (with a magazine safety so the round in the chamber wasn't a problem), in a confrontation with a bad guy after firing a couple of rounds she holds the trigger down and goes auto…

In the final shootout she uses an FBI agents (unspecfied) 10mm pistol to fire bursts at the bad guys.

But then, the author was lawyer. Pulling some firearm facts up through research isn't the same as knowing anything about them.

As to clips and magazines, about a year ago I read With the Old Breed by a Marine veteran of the Pacific Campaign in WWII. You undoubtedly will be horrified to learn that he wrote of clips for the Thompsons.

Back in the Dark Ages when I grew up very few people called them magazines. Clip was the accepted vernacular. However politically incorrect it may be today it was standard usage even in firearms publications.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 3:27 a.m. PST

You and your politically correct silliness. Just because you thought the world was flat and magazines were called clips back in the stone age. Doesn't make it any less wrong.

Roderick Robertson Fezian03 Sep 2017 10:18 a.m. PST

Nah, it's just that she's so good she can hold her gun in the most incorrect way possible and still hit what she's aiming at.

She's just that badass.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 10:24 a.m. PST

The Division is also the worst secret organisation ever. They'll start a public firefight at the drop of a dime.

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