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Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP22 Jul 2017 2:31 p.m. PST

The new Justice League trailer is out.

YouTube link

And if you thought there was hope after Wonder Woman, I have some really bad news.

Zack Snyder still. doesn't. get. it.

There was a moment in the movie where they say in a news flash that "(Superman) didn't just save people, he made them see the best parts of themselves"

I didn't know if I should laugh or cry.

I'm not getting back on what's wrong in Man of Steel (being afraid of the name of the main character says a lot) or Batman v Superman : Dawn of Justice (this review says what's wrong with that far more eloquently that I could ever hope to achieve : YouTube link

But one thing really aggravates me, which is Zack Snyder's use of shortcuts to make us believe what he's actually showing on screen is something completely different.

A shortcut is a movie technique which is sometimes used to expedite something quickly without having to elaborate on it.

For example, a character in your fantasy movie is said to be beautiful, fair, above average, destined for greatness etc.

You could get an actor of both great talent and suitable appearance and make them act until they bleed to show every detail of the description on screen.

Alternatively if you don't have the right person or there is no time to do so, or you're just lazy or lack the proper directorial skills, you can use a shortcut. Instead of the character showing why they are so special, you have other characters make comments about how they are so special, or have it announced in voice-overs or use some visual flourish like a magical creature giving the character a special blessing.

This is what Snyder has been doing with Superman, he needs Superman to be a popular, charismatic hero, but he never showed it any time in the movies.

He's shown looming over people he's apparently going to save or set up to look almost like a messianic figure after it is heavily hinted he actually saved people. Rather than show Superman actually acting like a decent guy, he prefers to imply it by giving him a big melodramatic statue or at best a death scene that could have been avoided if the writers hadn't so hamfistedly insisted he'd die in a stupid manner.

There is a scene in the Wonder Woman film where she is fed up with having to hide and decides to act and save people trapped on the battlefield. It's a great character moment that shows that she has great compassion and wants to help people.

It almost never happened. People at DC didn't like it.

In the Zack Snyder version they probably would have her stuck on a battlefield, cutting Germans soldiers in half and using her whip to smash them into walls in an explosion of gore, topped by a fight with some evil mutated German soldier the size of an ogre which she would despatch in detailed slow motion by kicking his head through his own helmet.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP22 Jul 2017 7:18 p.m. PST

"Alternatively if you don't have the right person or there is no time to do so, or you're just lazy or lack the proper directorial skills, you can use a shortcut. Instead of the character showing why they are so special, you have other characters make comments about how they are so special, or have it announced in voice-overs or use some visual flourish like a magical creature giving the character a special blessing."

Lol. That's exactly what news commentators do when they can't schedule an interview with a celebrity or some influential individual! And then later you get to actually see and hear the person they were speaking about, and you suddenly start wondering what planet they're on.

I guess some people think that, if shortcuts and other lazy third person commentaries work just fine with the news media that people seem to still trust somehow, then it must be just fine for everyone else to do.

You are absolutely right. He does not get it.

Dan

haywire Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2017 11:36 a.m. PST

Long video, but I think this gets to what you are saying

The show vs. tell using Force Awakens and Rogue One…

https://youtu.be/gsIQa7sH5_Y

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