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Personal logo Great War Ace Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2016 8:25 a.m. PST

Here's the issue: I am no GEEK when it comes to electronic stuff. When I do finally get something to work, when I return to it months later, specifically six months later, in time for Mormon General Conference, what I did six months before does not work now. This is "routine". I reach for my bec de corbin. My wife tries not to panic as I thrust, swing and shadow bash each and every device and peripheral in the room, gritting my teeth and growling. I lay the "tool" down and retreat from the livingroom. What I finally come up with does not match what I came up with previously. But at least audio is coming out of my sound system.

Why does HDMI refuse to produce sound through my stereo speakers from the TV? Why does hooking up a stereo phone jack to AV2 work? But HDMI does not work?

But at first AV2 did not work. I clicked through all of the input options and got NO SOUND. I finally, irrationally, unplugged the phone jack end of the AV2 hookup from the back of the TV and plugged it back in, and voila!? the TV screen showed a dialogue offering "Headphones / Audio Out Variable" or, "Audio Out Fixed". I selected "Audio Out Fixed" and Voila! the TV audio started issuing from my stereo system.

Now, NOW, either option works, it mattereth not. (I still cannot see any way to get that dialogue to appear using the TV hand control; only unplugging and plugging the phone jack in gets it to pop up. That in itself is annoying.)

My Yamaha manual says doodly squat about hooking up a headphones jack to get TV audio through a stereo system. It only goes through gyrations of steps 3 through 8, such as "Enable", "Turn Off", "Turn On", "Switch", "Check this", Check that", and finally, in small print at the bottom: "We recommend using TV and playback devices from the same manufacturer so that HDMI Control works more effectively." Heh…………….

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP03 Oct 2016 1:20 p.m. PST

I'm certainly not certain what's going on, but since no one else has anything I'll take a stab at it. Or more accurately, a few swipes.

Technology tends not to operate randomly. You should get the same results from the same sequence of steps. A theme in your narrative is things operating differently from one go-round to the next. I suspect you were either overlooking goofy things in the TV's on screen settings menu, or ignoring something like the sequence in which things are connected and powered up. HDMI is supposed to be hot swappable, but since the devices may be exchanging information at startup connecting that cable after startup might give different results than if the cable were connected when the devices powered up.

When I've had this type of thing happen I've gone so far as to write down the connections, settings, and power up sequence, so I can try the variations and be sure I'm doing what I think I'm doing and not re-creating things I've worked out.

You should also check your cables and connectors. If there's a problem with a pin or frayed wire you can get all this annoying nonsense.

Some manufacturers have well-informed, helpful people at the other end of the 1-800 number. Worth a try.

While we're on that topic, if you can express the problem properly Google will lead you to other people already discussing it. I solve half of my problems by googling "Accord P1701" or "sanitizing feathers" or "iOS undelete mail" or whatever. There are a lot of people on the internet these days, and sometime int he last several years someone discussed your question. Spooky.

You could also check the room for "hex bags" like they do on Supernatural.

Good luck!

PaddySinclair04 Oct 2016 6:09 a.m. PST

Am I correct in thinking that you're trying to take an HDMI socket on the back of the TV and plug that through to an HDMI socket on your speakers/amplifier, because that wouldn't work (TV's don't in general act as an HDMI source)? Most amplifiers have at least two HDMI sockets on them, one out and one or more in and the amplifier then sits between the HDMI source and the TV. Though your problems start if you have any Sony kit in the mix as Sony are a bit "special" and "precious" about how they've implemented various of their HDMI standard.

What brand/models are the speakers and TV?

Personal logo Great War Ace Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2016 4:36 p.m. PST

Yes, I have the ARC, HDMI-compatible TV hooked up to the "Out" jack on the receiver. No, I don't have HDMI jacks on any of my speakers.

TV is Insignia. Speakers are Bose main and rear, Pioneer center and subwoofer. Tuner/receiver is Yamaha.

The Yamaha has one HDMI "Out" jack. And four HDMI jacks for connecting HDMI compatible playback devices. The "Out" jack is for: "connecting to an HDMI-compatible TV and outputting video/audio signals. When using ARC, TV audio signal can also be input through the HDMI OUT jack."

Heh, you could fool me. I need that AV2 stereo hookup to get the TV to play through my receiver…………

Personal logo Great War Ace Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2016 4:39 p.m. PST

Btw, I did not touch a thing since I figured out, six months ago, how to get the TV to play through AV2. I left it. And as the OP describes, it, did, not, work, six months later. I had to go through those gyrations to get the TV audio to come back through AV2. So perhaps something supernatural occurred after all. What in the heck is a "hex bag"?……..

PaddySinclair04 Oct 2016 5:05 p.m. PST

If you're not exclusively using the TV to display an HDMI source (cable/satellite etc.) and it looks like it doesn't kick out a signal on the HDMI the solution you've got is probably the best one :(

Personal logo Great War Ace Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2016 7:37 p.m. PST

I can't even remember how/why I decided to hook up the phone jack cable to the AV2 stereo connectors in the back. Maybe I had tried to detect why I wasn't getting any TV audio through my speakers, and tried using the cable that I bought to hook up my laptop to the TV? A moment of experimental "genius"! Well, the mystery of why the HDMI jack that is ARC compatible does not put TV audio out through the "Out" jack remains. And I am vexed. But at least I do have a way of getting audio……….

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2016 6:31 a.m. PST

Does this help?

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Personal logo Great War Ace Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2016 8:50 a.m. PST

Yes. It helps me to accept that this single subject is, all by itself, too complicated by half, for the average consumer to understand. I'm just lucky that I found a solution that I have managed to make work. Dumb luck, that is………..

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