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04 Aug 2016 11:37 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "IS Scams are getting scary" to "IRS Scams are getting scary"

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Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member04 Aug 2016 10:44 a.m. PST

IRS. Being over 60,I'm getting an increasing number of these calls(sometimes more than one a day). Also,I cared for my mother for the last 6 years or so,and that adds to them. I don't answer landline calls anymore.

But it seems to be getting more aggressive.I talked to my brother yesterday,who told me a hair raising story. He ran into a former coworker the other day,who said she got one of these calls a couple of weeks ago,which she answered. She played along for a few minutes,then said "I know this is a scam. Don't ever call me again". The caller argued with her for a few seconds,saying it wasn't a scam,she was about to be arrested,police were on the way,etc.,till she hung up.

A little later ,there was a knock on the door;she opened it to find two policemen.
"Are you Mrs XXX?"
"Is your son YYY at home?"
"No,he's at a friend's house. Is anything wrong?"
"Well,we had a 911 call that YYY XXX had just shot his mother".

This is the first time I've heard of scammers using swatting. Has anyone here heard anything about this,or worse, had something like this happen?

Edit:I see this has been going on for a little while now:

And one from last year,not far from me:


45thdiv04 Aug 2016 11:28 a.m. PST

I hope she told the police what happened. They can trace that 911 call back to the scammer.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member04 Aug 2016 11:52 a.m. PST

Oh,yeah,she told them,all right. The call was undoubtedly rerouted through a fake ID number. Probably originated from a foreign country,as(I would guess)did the scam call(see the Colorado story). Some of the ones I get are so heavily accented I can't understand them,or with such a lot of noise or reverb (from rerouting?) as to be unitelligble.

A couple more thoughts:

What's scary about the one I recountd--aside from the possibility of getting killed!--is that they apparently had the name of the woman's son. That opens a can of very creepy worms.

Secondly, what was the point? It's not as if she was going to call them back and offer to pay after all(oh,yes,they leave callback numbers). Are these scammers getting so frustrated by people getting wise to the scam that they're lashing out? Do they think that if enough people get arrested/injured /killed, victims will start paying up out of fear?

This is a weird world.

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2016 1:43 p.m. PST

These calls are illegal, they're hurting people, they're disrupting lives, but somehow our law enforcement priorities are such that they merrily proceed, stealing however much money they're stealing.

Everyone needs to use NoMoRoBo. It's free, it helps. Get this set up for yourself and whatever people you're looking out for.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian04 Aug 2016 3:39 p.m. PST

Andy, nice but does not support traditional phone lines

Syrinx004 Aug 2016 6:06 p.m. PST

We received several scam IRS calls last month. Then a real IRS notice arrived. That was not amusing – some git used our id to get unemployment. Not as bad as having the swat team at your door but disrupting none the less.

Balin Shortstuff Inactive Member05 Aug 2016 1:47 a.m. PST

That's why I rarely answer numbers I don't recognize shown on caller-id. Usually the caller wont leave a message, but the IRS scammers I get, that's all they'll do, leave a message and a "call this number", no direct human contact. There are online sites where you can do a search on a phone number and see if anyone else has reported the nature of a call from that number. Sometimes the same number is used for different scams, or the caller specializes with just one. If I find one, I block the number.

I imagine the swatting is the caller just venting their frustration, but it does remove the temptation to answer the call and "play with them".

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member05 Aug 2016 8:00 a.m. PST

Or threaten to track them down,as I've been tempted to do. It's probably just upping the ante.

I still don't understand why they would want to bring official attention to themselves. Enough of this sort of thing would bring pressure from law enforcement,and the local governments that pay them, on the Feds,and thus on the foreign countries of origin. But maybe I'm just being naive.

Balin,,thanks,I'll look for those sites you mentioned.

Balin Shortstuff Inactive Member05 Aug 2016 11:40 a.m. PST

Just enter the 10 digit phone number, with "-"s, into a search engine and they'll come up.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member05 Aug 2016 2:45 p.m. PST

Thanks,I'll try it next time.

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