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Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP24 Apr 2016 9:38 a.m. PST
clibinarium24 Apr 2016 2:31 p.m. PST

Dave's not here, Indeed.

RavenscraftCybernetics Inactive Member24 Apr 2016 2:41 p.m. PST

This is not a bad thing.

zippyfusenet Inactive Member24 Apr 2016 2:51 p.m. PST

But it'll *feel* like longer, because of the time dilation effect, man.

Toronto4824 Apr 2016 2:57 p.m. PST

I question the "research"

Cheech and Chong are both still going strong

Cheech is 69 and Chong a young 77

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Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP24 Apr 2016 3:14 p.m. PST

I've never needed it, and I never will, but….

I believe there were many previous studies that suggested the marijuana of today is much more "potent" than that grown 40-50 years ago. So, the stuff Cheech and Chong smoked back then probably won't affect their health and lifespan as the latest study suggests because it hasn't been adulterated?

Also, the word "potent" pertaining to marijuana: is it so because it's now in a much more purer and natural form, or is it because there are presumably more chemicals present to enhance the overall yield of the volume of plants?

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP24 Apr 2016 5:21 p.m. PST

With rising health costs and an aging population, anyone who self selects out should be praised.

Add the benifit of less competition in the job market and they can think of themselves as real humanitarians.

WeeSparky24 Apr 2016 8:34 p.m. PST

Wow, I need to be a research scientist. Apparently they can make up facts now.

"Cannabis users have poorer health in general. You'd expect there to be increased mortality risk," Krakower told CBS News. He pointed to another long-term study linking early heavy marijuana use with lung cancer, and a second study that associates the drug with increased heart problems.

"Marijuana users generally may have poorer diets and they might be tobacco smokers. There's an increased linkage between weed and tobacco," said Krakower.

Yep, gotta be the pot, not the smoking and crappy diet. Article doesn't even bother to mention what the men are dying of, just a scary 40% more likely to die early. Male suicide has been on a steady increase, maybe pot makes men suicidal. How many of these men died in drunk driving accidents because they were not as risk adverse as the non-using participants?

The authors of the new study, published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, said the findings contradict previous research involving the same group of men.

And suddenly eggs are bad for you again.

zippyfusenet Inactive Member25 Apr 2016 4:55 a.m. PST

I believe there were many previous studies that suggested the marijuana of today is much more "potent" than that grown 40-50 years ago.

No. Just isn't true, unless you were smoking ditch-weed back then. Don't ask me how I know.

By the way, I've made it to retirement, and seem to be following a similar life trajectory to my father, who lived into his 80s. We both quit smoking *tobacco* in our 40s, which clearly prolonged our lives. I gotta lose some weight, now.

I can't think of any other current major health issues…but who are you and what were we talking about?

nazrat25 Apr 2016 6:53 a.m. PST

It seems it's just wishful thinking by some who either have never had pot or who tried it and didn't like it. I know many serious weed smokers and all of them are healthy and productive people. I know a WHOLE lot of sickly cigarette smokers and heavy drinkers, though.

WeeSparky25 Apr 2016 8:14 a.m. PST

There is big money in pot, if it is dangerous then it needs to be controlled and regulated by Big Daddy Government who can then take his fair share.

Who asked this joker25 Apr 2016 8:50 a.m. PST

Lets face it. They are basically smoking unfiltered cigarettes with MJ. That can't be good. I suppose that most people do not some joints at the same rate as a chain smoker though…unless they have a serious addiction.

zippyfusenet Inactive Member25 Apr 2016 9:36 a.m. PST

One, maybe two joints a day, just a few puffs at a time, is more than enough to keep a typical stoner *happy* all day, every day. The joints are smaller in volume than a commercial American cigarette. Also, pot joints aren't laced with saltpeter to keep them burning, chocolate flavor and gawd-nose-what-all they put in Virginia leaf these days.

I'm not saying MaryJane is good for you. Pot smoke is thick and unfiltered. You can give yourself bronchitis if you puff-puff-puff all the time. Also, I have evidence that MJ will give you an irregular heartbeat (atrial fibrilation) after many years use. But it goes away when you quit. Don't ask how I know.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP25 Apr 2016 9:07 p.m. PST

I'm with VCarter.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Apr 2016 4:25 a.m. PST

The solution: allow people to opt-in or opt-out of insurance risk groups based on marijuana use.

If you believe that as a user, you are healthier than non-users, then you should be happy to be in a risk group with lower risks.

If you believe that as a non-user, you are healthier than users, then you should be happy to be in a risk group with lower risks.

Let the actual phenomenology (which is extremely complicated and very difficult to discuss in general, non-scientific terms) sort it out.

Pretty much all the studies I have read and used for work spend the first dozen pages or so talking about variations in botanical and chemical composition, the differences the physiognomy of the mouth, throat, lungs, and cardiovascular system of people as it relates to inhaling, the behavioural side of inhaling a substance, physical presentation, and combustion rates so they can explain what a "dose" is in their research.

… or, with apologies to Gertrude Stein, "a bud is not a bud is not a bud".

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