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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP17 Apr 2016 12:55 p.m. PST

Ok. I am betraying my ignorance here. grin

Do you ever get the feeling listening to them that he takes 20 minutes to end a 25 minute piece?
I'm not saying I don't like it. I'm just sayin'…

skippy0001 Supporting Member of TMP17 Apr 2016 2:05 p.m. PST

He's at least half-deaf. "Crescendo them from orbit, just to be sure".

Great War Ace Inactive Member17 Apr 2016 4:12 p.m. PST

Not really. But symphonies tend to be lengthy anyway. Franz Schubert was a Beethoven fan and his first six symphonies sound almost as if Beethoven wrote them. The "Eighth" (the Unfinished) is a complete departure. And I don't believe that finishing the last two movements would have increased the worth of that fabulous first movement, which is a stand-alone of perfection, better than anything that Beethoven composed. Beethoven was impressed by him and near the end said, "Truly, in Schubert there dwells a divine spark!"….

zoneofcontrol17 Apr 2016 6:51 p.m. PST

Actually symphonies of were written to follow a specific pattern, much like songs of the modern era. Beethoven completed 9 Symphonies and started work on a 10th before his death. Modern composers took his early works and the incomplete work and using this formula "completed" the 10th.

Mozart was of the same era. His pieces followed the same formula but only in his style. His music has been and is being researched because of its ability to stimulate the human brain. Whether or not you care for his music, it has been found to physically stimulate the brain, especially in younger, growing children.

All that aside, I too have made light of the music. (Not Beethoven specifically, but the Classic Period Symphonies in general.) Classic or modern, if it ends in a big and lengthy flourish, we often refer to it as a "Big Beethoven Ending."

RavenscraftCybernetics Inactive Member18 Apr 2016 6:55 a.m. PST

they rented the halls/musicians by the hour.

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