tkdguy | 12 Apr 2016 11:49 p.m. PST |
We all know he died in a plane crash, but folks didn't know how or why it happened. Here's one explanation. link |
Who asked this joker | 13 Apr 2016 5:41 a.m. PST |
So the "real" prevailing theories are that his jet was either hit by another or that he was drunk. I am leaning toward the latter. I am not certain why the KGB would seal the case unless something that would hurt the heroes image was at hand…like being drunk. He did have a well documented drinking problem. |
Terrement | 13 Apr 2016 7:00 a.m. PST |
If it was the solo flight, I'd buy the "drunk" explanation, but less likely with the second seater in with him. "Deer hunting" as hotshot pilots and losing control seems quite possible. Given what he had to ride into space, I'm not surprised about the drinking problem. One of the reasons the record may be sealed is because it hides the identity of the KGB operative who brought the plane down as it flew through the area, because the KGB knew Gagarin was becoming more drunk, more critical and no longer fit the narrative that the "front office" wanted to put forward. The assassin? Lee Harvey Oswaldski |
Who asked this joker | 13 Apr 2016 7:27 a.m. PST |
Lee Harvey Oswaldski No way. Clearly there was more than one pilot operating in the area. Many people saw the su-15 take off from the grassy knoll. |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 13 Apr 2016 8:04 a.m. PST |
he and the instructor were attempting the "mile high club" maneuver. That's why the files were closed! |
Andrew Walters | 13 Apr 2016 8:29 a.m. PST |
Secrets tend to come out. Simplest explanations are the best. Brezhnev sealed the document because with 29 volumes of "inconclusive" you could find support for any crazy idea, so it would have been gas on the fire. Similarly you have to command the investigators to be silent because if you don't release the evidence they could say anything they want and be perceive as experts, and they couldn't be disproved because the evidence is unavailable. Besides, if you're Brezhnev you keep secrets by default. If Brezhnev did have him killed there would not have been an inconclusive report. There would have been a very clear and conclusive report blaming someone or something else. If he was drunk someone would have noticed. Plus the instructor was in the plane to take over. So they're both drunk or you don't get a crash. I expect that at the end of the day jet fighters are dangerous and the MiG-15 isn't a particularly safe one. So they crashed. This is why we sealed John Glenn up so carefully for all those years. |
Brian Bronson | 13 Apr 2016 10:09 a.m. PST |
This is why we sealed John Glenn up so carefully for all those years. Wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG! John Glenn WAS the other person in the cockpit, not some flunky flight instructor, and THAT's why the records were sealed up. |
Andrew Walters | 13 Apr 2016 11:11 a.m. PST |
Um. So John Glenn snuck to Russia, snuck on to the base, and got in the plane. Sent it into a crash, then ejected to safety, returning to America. Meanwhile, accomplices got the instructor's body banged up and burned enough to pass for a crash victim and got the body into the aircraft remains before the rescuers showed up. And Gagarin couldn't get out even though Glen could, and 29 volumes of evidence don't give any hint of this. Or they do, and Brezhnev chose to cover it up rather than embarrass the US. I don't think I follow your theory. Which just proves how very, very clever they were. |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 13 Apr 2016 1:50 p.m. PST |
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GarrisonMiniatures | 13 Apr 2016 3:36 p.m. PST |
Of course no-one realised Glenn was there. He was in disguise. He was wearing glasses. |
skippy0001 | 13 Apr 2016 7:03 p.m. PST |
Actually the CIA got him to defect but lost him in Las Vegas…he flew in there and never flew out….:) |
Patrick R | 14 Apr 2016 6:23 a.m. PST |
It was Chuck Norris, with a gunfinger, from Texas … |