| Terrement | 14 Dec 2015 12:05 p.m. PST |
Elon Musk launches $1 USDbn fund to save world from AI link Other than terrorism, the spread of nukes to bad places and, of course, AGW |
ScottWashburn  | 14 Dec 2015 12:10 p.m. PST |
"Because of AI's surprising history, it's hard to predict when human-level AI might come within reach," Does he mean it's surprising that we've made so LITTLE progress in the past 60 years? Computers are a lot more capable now, but if by AI you mean a thinking, self-aware computer, then we aren't even close. |
| Terrement | 14 Dec 2015 1:07 p.m. PST |
I don't know exactly what he means, but I think he's alluding to possible advances, as did Hawking who he quoted in the article: "Last year Prof Stephen Hawking, the theoretical physicist, told the BBC that the technology could spell the end of human race. He warned of a technology that could "re-design itself at an ever increasing rate" outpacing human advances." How soon is anyone's guess but I think that is the concern. add to it this sort of thing:
link link and consider that not so many decades ago, a hand held machine that could add, subtract, multiply divide and take square root was a pretty hot bit of equipment (my HP version for Christmas in 1972 was just over $100.00 USD) and one wonders what sort of leaps will be coming in the next few decades. |
| Winston Smith | 14 Dec 2015 1:27 p.m. PST |
Just because you're rich, doesn't mean you're a genius.
Cough cough cough *<avoided for possible "political" DH sentence>* And just because you are a Nobel Laureate, you are not an expert in EVERYTHING.
Who was that Nobel Laureate Johnnie that shocked everything with his racial theories and eugenics? William Shockley? |
| Waco Joe | 14 Dec 2015 2:13 p.m. PST |
What happens if anthropomorphic global warming attains artificial intelligence and decides to become a terrorist? AIAGWISIS? |
| Terrement | 14 Dec 2015 2:43 p.m. PST |
I may take that as the battle cry for some of my alien forces AIAGWISIS!- (aye-agg wii-sis with the accent on the third syllable) |
| Charlie 12 | 14 Dec 2015 4:48 p.m. PST |
Musk needs to bone up on the technology before he goes all Luddite. Current (and foreseeable) tech is waaaaaay short of his hyper paranoid nightmare.. |
| Zargon | 14 Dec 2015 5:54 p.m. PST |
Dumbing down the tech to the masses could be profitable to them up high, the problem of AI is would it be able to discern suffering, a very scary thing to the rich I think, me I love the Musk as I think he has the capability to give more than hot air and magic (see Billy Gates talking about energy on the BBC? at the climate summit, yes he use scientists and magic in the same speech ha ha) I'm thinking these guys know lots more than they are letting on if they are putting scare stories and money in the way of AI development, though I'd rather be done in by AI than the crooks running the world ;)
Cheers and be nice to R2D2 we may need him to stop the Empire eh:) |
| Terrement | 14 Dec 2015 6:12 p.m. PST |
Charlie, He isn't saying it is happening tomorrow. Get a grip. |
| ScottWashburn | 14 Dec 2015 6:25 p.m. PST |
Whenever I watch 2001 A Space Odyssey I ponder that at the time that the movie was made (1968) every single thing in it, the PanAm space clipper, the orbiting space station, the moon base, and the Discovery probe to Jupiter could have been accomplished by 2001 if we had simply thrown enough money into it. EXCEPT for HAL! |
 Saber6   | 14 Dec 2015 7:33 p.m. PST |
Or this is a "clever plan" to get in on the ground floor of AI development |
| Terrement | 14 Dec 2015 8:42 p.m. PST |
With the $$$$ he's spending, he has a lot of opportunities to pursue |
| Charlie 12 | 14 Dec 2015 9:49 p.m. PST |
He isn't saying it is happening tomorrow. Get a grip. Reference "foreseeable": As in, not today, not tomorrow or even in our lifetime. Computing speed would have to increase several magnitudes for even the most rudimentary AI. And that ain't happening because we've effectively hit the speed wall. YOU get a grip, JJ…. Or better still, check your facts… |
| Terrement | 14 Dec 2015 10:09 p.m. PST |
He isn't even saying foreseeable. ""Because of AI's surprising history, it's hard to predict when human-level AI might come within reach," they said in a statement. "When it does, it'll be important to have a leading research institution which can prioritise a good outcome for all over its own self-interest."
The statement is a reflection of the debate within the science and technology worlds about the threats and benefits offered by rapid advances in computer intelligence, and whether legislative safeguards – or even a total moratorium on research – are needed." So if you don't know and can't predict when it will happen, then foreseeable by definition doesn't enter into it. Once you have credentials that rival Hawking, THEN I might consider your opinion worth listening to. Until then? Get a grip. |
| Mad Mecha Guy | 15 Dec 2015 4:44 a.m. PST |
IBM are working on a Computer chip that operates in a similar way to human Neurons. Wonder what would happen if they tied into a large neural network & plugged it into the internet. link link |
| 15th Hussar | 15 Dec 2015 6:30 a.m. PST |
Daisy, Dazeee…give me…your…answer…T…R…U…E |
| RavenscraftCybernetics | 15 Dec 2015 7:22 a.m. PST |
as the saying goes… you cant stop progress.
it seems to me that eventually we should be replaced by A.I. |
| Terrement | 15 Dec 2015 7:44 a.m. PST |
And some folks can be replaced by less than that already! |
| Great War Ace | 15 Dec 2015 10:31 a.m. PST |
"Al". I agree that "Al" is a problem. But it isn't because he's so "self aware". That is actually a good thing for the rest of us. He's so "self aware" that he doesn't even notice the silly side of the words that he says…. |
| Charlie 12 | 15 Dec 2015 3:22 p.m. PST |
Once you have credentials that rival Hawking, THEN I might consider your opinion worth listening to. So, JJ, you consider Hawking (and Gates and Musk) to be thoroughly qualified in the area of AI? Considering NONE of them have any background in the field (same as most of us), why should I give their opinions more credence than, say, known researchers in the field? Really makes no sense, does it now. |
| Terrement | 15 Dec 2015 3:37 p.m. PST |
Not qualified in AI, just  . |
| darthfozzywig | 15 Dec 2015 7:15 p.m. PST |
AIAGWISIS? ISIS is everywhere!!!! AHHHH!111!!11oneone! |
| darthfozzywig | 15 Dec 2015 7:17 p.m. PST |
Musk needs to bone up on the technology before he goes all Luddite. Putting Musk and Luddite in the same sentence doesn't make for a credible post. |
 Mister Tibbles | 15 Dec 2015 9:06 p.m. PST |
Why is everyone afraid of Al? I hear he's a swell guy!  |
 ochoin | 16 Dec 2015 4:59 a.m. PST |
Why is everyone afraid of Al? Not since Elliot Ness sorted him out:
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 javelin98 | 16 Dec 2015 2:51 p.m. PST |
IBM are working on a Computer chip that operates in a similar way to human Neurons. Wonder what would happen if they tied into a large neural network & plugged it into the internet. Personally, I think it would take a look at the state of the world and then format its own hard drive. |
| Bowman | 17 Dec 2015 11:20 a.m. PST |
And just because you are a Nobel Laureate, you are not an expert in EVERYTHING.
Who was that Nobel Laureate Johnnie that shocked everything with his racial theories and eugenics? William Shockley? John the OFM and Charlie 12 are correct in this case. I'm a big Hawking fan and realize he has an IQ rating off the scale. However, giving undue credence to Hawking for an opinion outside of his specialty is a fallacy…..the argument from authority. That doesn't make him wrong, anymore than it makes him right. It's just that his cosmology opinions should be given more value than his non-cosmology opinions. In JJ's defence, what he said was not a dog-housable offence, IMO. |
