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Smokey Roan31 Dec 2014 3:24 p.m. PST

Their bottom dwelling Hogs and Aggies may have impressed in minor bowls, but Ol Miss and LSU laid eggs on National TV.

Interesting to see if MSU can beat a High School Team tonight in the Orange Bowl.

Smokey's solution: 6 team playoff, five Power Conference champs and one at large NOT from the P5.

Thus, teams will again play OOC games. OOC games could go a long way towards exposing a LOT of these over rated programs. (Look what happened when OSU* scheduled a last place ACC team at home, same when Boston College exposed the Pac10) My system would take the fear out of playing competition.

Win the conference and your in, lose, and you have no Baylor/TCU whining. :)

Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2014 4:09 p.m. PST

Smokey's solution: 6 team playoff, five Power Conference champs and one at large NOT from the P5.

This is exactly my solution. The at-large will almost inevitably be the conference champ from one of the "lesser" conferences. And before anyone poo-poos that notion, I would point out that Utah (pre-Pac 12) and Boise State have scored major bowl wins, as did UCF last year.

Seeding is done by overall record and strength of schedule (slightly subjective, I know). Top two seeds get a bye the first round. Games against FCS schools don't count as a win.

No more smoke and mirrors. Didn't win your conference? Should've fought harder, pussies.

I can't believe Smokey and I are on the same page with this.

Double G31 Dec 2014 4:20 p.m. PST

I like this idea.

A lot.

Which means the boobs at the NCAA will never go for it.

Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2014 4:51 p.m. PST

Another option would be to allow two at-large teams that aren't Power 5, and give the #1 seed the bye. The advantages of this are:

1) There is usually a clear #1 seed. After that, it gets more subjective. If you have to give a bye to #1 and #2, it's gonna get whiney really quickly.

2) The first round of the playoffs has three games, which means more money. This will be critical, not just because CFB is increasingly about money, but because there is going to have to be graduated revenue sharing. Otherwise, why take the bye as #1 and miss out on a payday?

3) Allowing two spots for non-P5 teams is fairer and better for the game as a whole. Frankly, this year might be one of those rare occasions where there aren't at least two teams outside the P5 who would be shoe-ins.

Winston Smith31 Dec 2014 5:21 p.m. PST

The OFM's method is better. Look it up.

Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2014 5:53 p.m. PST

I am familiar with the OFM's method. It fails on many levels.

Smokey Roan31 Dec 2014 6:58 p.m. PST

If you allow TWO at large teams, then it is a case of which panzy ass team like BSU, Marshall or whoever can avoid any and all OOC competition, and which SEC fraud like Auburn or MSU can avoid any and all competition and claim a playoff spot because they lost to 'Bama.

Nope, ONE at large team, NOT from the Power Five (which prevents teams like B12, Pac10 and SEC also rans from slipping in by playing weak ass OOC schedules)

Let a Marshall or BSU in, let them get clobbered by the 3 seed, and carry on.

The OFM's method as I recall was some 32 team playoff or sopmething like it. Fine. Extends sports season that much longer. :)

John the OFM31 Dec 2014 7:32 p.m. PST

8 team playoff. The only purpose of a conference is to schedule games. Conference championship games serve only to add to wins.
The first level is composed of all undefeated teams, seeded by total wins of teams in question and then by total wins of defeated opponents. Wins against "non BCS" teams do not count.
Second level is composed of teams with one loss, seeded as above.
Then 2 losses. Stop when you get 8 teams. Number 9? You should have won more games, but at least you can play in the Lumber Liquidator Bowl.

No learned panels, no guff about conference superiority.
Totally objective. Anyone with Excel 101 can be the commissioner.

John the OFM31 Dec 2014 7:37 p.m. PST

It only fails if you like beauty contests.

Smokey Roan31 Dec 2014 7:43 p.m. PST

My system takes care of everybody, without the scorcery and math of your system.

Smokey Roan31 Dec 2014 7:55 p.m. PST

lol! Paul "Low Class" Johnson is ahead at halftime, but not by much, or for long.

Winston Smith31 Dec 2014 8:02 p.m. PST

Counting is advanced math?
That says volumes about education at Da U.

Smokey Roan31 Dec 2014 8:41 p.m. PST

Well, I dare say Booker T Washington (the 4 time high school national champions) would run a train on the SEC.

Paul Johnson beating the vaunted SEC? Really?

Mullen's stock has gone in the red. LOL! Beat nobody all year, get ballyhoo'd as some great coach of a great team, and then back to reality.

Still the same bagman that he was as fake OC for Urban Maya.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2014 10:49 p.m. PST

Smoke, don't take that job as a football prognosticator.

Keep whatever it is you're doing now.

Ga Tech beat the pants off MSU – it wasn't as close as
the final score.

CorroPredo01 Jan 2015 10:43 a.m. PST

Hey, Smokey, How 'bout them Horned Frogs?????

Smokey Roan01 Jan 2015 1:29 p.m. PST

TCU played a great game. Too bad their scheme with Baylor and the B12 was exposed. No conference champion? Really? So THAT means that TWO B12 teams should be in every 4 team playoff, because y'all don't have a B12 Champion every year? Really?

jtipp6801 Jan 2015 9:31 p.m. PST

It's not a scheme. It's an ncaa rule due to the amount of teams in the conference.

What if there isn't a non P5 team in the top 10? Jumping them over better teams because they play in a Bleeped textty conference doesn't make any sense unless you want to see notre dame be the at large every year.

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