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grenadier corporal	13 Nov 2013 8:07 a.m. PST
Although not British I am very much fascinated by the British Army, especially the standards they set for ceremonial parades (Trooping the Colour and others). I always try to follow the commands and to understand them. And here is my question: What does "By the center" before (eg) "Quick March" mean? I have rarely heard "By the right/left", but had never noticed a difference. Is there a RSM or even a GSM out there to help? Many thanks from the Corporal (my reenactment rank in the Austrian Infantry of 1809 for many years now)
Doms Decals	13 Nov 2013 8:28 a.m. PST
It's who you take your dressing off of – ie. you keep in line with the guy in the middle, rather than the left or right. (Normally formations take their dressing from the right marker, so will dress by the right or by the left, but "by the centre" is used for ceremonials and especially by bands.)
TNE2300	13 Nov 2013 12:54 p.m. PST
the US Army drill and ceremonies manual is FM 22-5 link what is the equivelent for other countries/services?
ScottWashburn	13 Nov 2013 2:31 p.m. PST
Yes, I believe Dom has it correct (although I'm not that familiar with British drill). When doing ceremonial movements with large formations its utterly vital for the troops to know which part of the formation to align themselves on, right, center, or left. Otherwise their nice straight lines could quickly start to come apart.
Sparker	13 Nov 2013 6:13 p.m. PST
Yes Dom is entirely correct of course. Any drill command has three parts – 1. Warning, 2. Dressing and 3. Executive. Watch this way and I will give you a complete demonstration of the movement: 1. Warning – Who you wish the order to apply to – your squad, or the whole parade, or your wing? Just the Band, or the Guard and Band, or the entire Parade? Serves to wake every one up and let people know who it applies to: 'Squaad'or 'Paraaade' 'Division', 'Band', 'Guard', 'officers on Parade carrying swords' etc… 2. Dressing – who to take guide from – Left, Centre or Right. Ie do you match your speed to the bloke on the left or the right or the guy in the centre. Optional for parties acting individually. 3. The executive – What it is you are to do, delivered in a sharp tone to enhance speed and performance: 'Shun!' 'Quick March' 'About Turn' 'Draw Swords' etc. So a complete drill order will start on a High, then issue the dressing, if issued, on a low, and finish on a short high for the exectutive: 'SQUAD!'…'by the left'…'QUICK MARCH!' 'OFFICERS CARRYING SWORDS'….'DRAW SWORDS' Of course if there are multiple parties involved it gets more complex: 'BAND!'….'by the centre'…'GUARD'…'by the left'….'CORTEGE 'n ESCORT'…'by the centre'…"SLOW MARCH!"
grenadier corporal	14 Nov 2013 12:12 a.m. PST
Thank you so much, dear all! Especially appreciate the US Drill Manual. Is there anything comparable for the British Army?
Jemima Fawr	15 Nov 2013 11:41 a.m. PST
For the RAF it's Air Publication (AP) 818. There's a condensed version for cadet use here: PDF link
11th ACR	24 Dec 2013 10:04 p.m. PST
Two very good examples of British Army marching. YouTube link YouTube link
janner	02 Feb 2014 12:54 a.m. PST
Sparker is on the button. Dressing is generally by the colours or right hand marker if not escort to the colours, a battalion in line etc. Of course, if the formation conducts an about turn (about face), the right hand marker is on the left. So in moving around a parade square, the commander must always bear in mind where the original right hand marker is in relation to the body of troops. Dressing may temporarily shift to perform a particular movement, such as a left form (that strange wheel come turn you see going on in the corners during Trooping the Colour), eyes left etc. but will revert once it has been completed. Regards,

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