John the OFM | 24 Aug 2013 6:06 p.m. PST |
That would be the proper use of "begging the question". NOBODY gets it right! It does not mean what you think it means. The fallacy of petitio principii, or "begging the question", is committed "when a proposition which requires proof is assumed without proof". linkDoes anybody get right? To be honest, I have to keep looking it up to understand it. But I know when it's wrong when I see it. I would rather devote my TMP Grammer, and, Speling Facscist Emeritus street cred on "less and fewer" and Apostrophe Abuse™. |
SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER | 24 Aug 2013 6:15 p.m. PST |
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Tommy20 | 24 Aug 2013 6:16 p.m. PST |
Meh. The only one that really bothers me is the misuse of calvary. |
altfritz | 24 Aug 2013 6:43 p.m. PST |
I once picked up some "Calvary Movement Trays" (as the they were laser printed underneath). They were on for a fantastic discount! :-) |
Arteis | 24 Aug 2013 6:50 p.m. PST |
If it's not wrth fighting over, then it's not wrth anything. |
TNE2300 | 24 Aug 2013 7:39 p.m. PST |
I avoid using it just so I cannot use it wrong saves me at least some aggravation my button is the use of thEn in place of thAn arrrrg! calvary is a very close second |
SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER | 24 Aug 2013 8:07 p.m. PST |
I try never to misuse cavalry. but things have gone wrong
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Patrick R | 25 Aug 2013 2:07 a.m. PST |
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Qurchi Bashi | 25 Aug 2013 2:08 a.m. PST |
It bugs me, but then, I taught philosophy and logic classes and logical fallicies (the 'proper' use of 'begging the question' is one) was a topic we covered. When I hear it I usually inwardly shudder, but rarely say anything because it appears to be a losing battle. Shame that, because it is actually an important concept to distinguish. |
etotheipi | 25 Aug 2013 3:44 a.m. PST |
Misuse doesn't bother me. I use that one correctly. Most of the time. I hope. One thing teaching rhetoric taught me is that there is a difference between structured and casual speech. Certainly, one (see
I said "one" instead of "you") should train himself (artifact of English grammar, not misogyny) on the rules in order to make fewer (yeah) mistakes which leads to less (yeah, yeah) ambiguity. That said, fewer/less always piques me for some reason. In the fast check-out grocery line, I always feel like I should eat half a peach or drink one of the beers from the case in order to qualify
On the other hand
I have been known to commit occasional ellipsis abuse. By occasional, I mean frequent. |
Ed Mohrmann | 25 Aug 2013 5:27 a.m. PST |
The creep, mostly due to media misuse, of 'infer' when 'imply' is correct. The media, supposed to be among the most educated of the GP, is certainly guilty of many crimes against language. |
vtsaogames | 25 Aug 2013 5:52 a.m. PST |
My bete noir: many gamers who say the Peninsular War happened in the Peninsular. No, it happened in the Iberian Peninsula. Peninsular is an adjective, not a noun, proper or otherwise. And I will draw my sword over that one. |
Phil Hall | 25 Aug 2013 8:56 a.m. PST |
Your begging the question, John ;0 |
Ditto Tango 2 3 | 25 Aug 2013 10:46 a.m. PST |
Hey Patrick R, I just spent half an hour wasting time on the oatmeal, what a great site! -- Tim |
John the OFM | 26 Aug 2013 11:29 a.m. PST |
I am with Calvin Trilling on the who/whom question. "'Whom' is a word designed to make us sound like butlers." |
John the OFM | 26 Aug 2013 11:30 a.m. PST |
I am also with Winston Churchill on a preposition being a terrible thing to end a sentence with. |
Ed Mohrmann | 27 Aug 2013 1:56 p.m. PST |
Actually, I thought Winnie had said 'That is the sort of thing up with which I shall not put !' |