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haywire Supporting Member of TMP17 Mar 2013 4:30 p.m. PST

For selling English labeled products?

youtu.be/jGuQxfo2ZnM

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER Inactive Member17 Mar 2013 6:47 p.m. PST

Insane!

Skeptic17 Mar 2013 7:12 p.m. PST

And verging on "politics" (the "reason" behind the law)…

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Mar 2013 9:42 p.m. PST

Perhaps they should reassign some of the language police to prison duties.

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Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Mar 2013 3:51 a.m. PST

Disagree that this is inherently politics. These laws have been around for centuries and decades, depending on which version, what part, etc. Action has been ongoing for a long time. (My fave being going after Walmart because their signs don't have "French" on them, even though I can go to France and see tons of places labeled "mart", a term that has been adopted by the official language board.) I would think a discussion of this sort only becomes politics when you started beating on groups for their current actions.

For further source reading on the subject, here's a copy of the laws in discussion, on the web, published by the Quebecoise government, in English. :)

ArchiducCharles Inactive Member18 Mar 2013 6:06 a.m. PST

- These laws have been around for centuries and decades -

Centuries? Around 40 years…(1977)

And obviously politics for anyone living in Québec.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Mar 2013 8:04 a.m. PST

The current version of the law was established by the Third Council (2nd ~1905's and `st ~1930), so it is a direct descendant of those earlier laws. But its roots (and many of its words and clauses) come from the mid-1700's when the British established rule in Canada and explicitly guaranteed French speaking citizens the legality of the French language (as well as a couple other traditional provisions). Some people attribute the establishment of the Quebec Act in 1774 (the oldest ancestor of the modern law that I know of) to fears generated by a potential revolt against English rule somewhere south of Quebec.

Before the mid 18th century, there was no need for laws to protect the provisions of French heritage because French was the de facto legal language in the area.

I don't think acknowledging the issue is any more political than saying, "Person XYZ is the President of nation ABC," without other contextual statements.

Though I do agree with the sentiment that discussing a sensitive topic like this can easily lead to an overtly contemporary political that is against the TOS for TMP.

And FTR, Skeptic didn't say it WAS politics, just that it VERGED on politics, so I poorly worded my earlier post. I agree with what he said.

haywire Supporting Member of TMP18 Mar 2013 10:27 a.m. PST

Yes, it verges on politics, but politics that affects us as a group.

Now, dealers who wish to get into the Quebec Market will need to publish french versions of their games.

I am also wondering what will happen to Game Companies who exist inside Quebec, such as Dream Pod 9 who will now need to update all their new product into french.

Mapleleaf Inactive Member19 Mar 2013 7:48 a.m. PST

Given the ridiculously high US Postal rates and the additional fees charged by Canada Customs language would be the least of a company's problems. By the time new items arrive in Quebec they could be labeled as "Antiques" and be exempt from language laws.

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