|Last Hussar||30 Jun 2011 3:41 a.m. PST|
I wish people would abandon these and move to message boards. It's hard to follow a thread, because it doesn't put the entire conversation in an easily readable layout, people don't edit their replies so all earlier replies are repeated on each post. what ever email layout you choose is no good, the layout of the threads on the Yahoo site is hopeless, and depends on which sub comments were replied to, and often email footers are attached.
An example of the last, one member of a group I subscribe to has an automatically attached footer:
> [cid:logo_best_180.gif] [cid:sc21-bronze-award-logo-2010.gif]
> Visit our web site at [company name].co.uk<http://www.[company name].co.uk/>
> [company] ; [company motto]
> [company] is a supplier of interconnect solutions and products – particularly for harsh environment applications. We manufacture a wide range of [customer field] and [customer field] qualified circular and Micro-D connectors, backshells, conduit, braiding, harness accessories and tooling. Other products include fibre optic components and assemblies, composite components and enclosures. We specialise in the design and manufacture of customised wire and flexi-harness assemblies for [customer field] and [customer field] applications. We have a large design team in [location] able to support and solve any of your interconnection requirements.
> Do You Really Need To Print This Out? Please Put The Environment First.
> This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of [company name] Limited. All goods or services quoted within this email will be supplied under [company name] standard Terms and Conditions of Sale, available on request. [company name] Ltd is a limited company, registered in England and Wales, registered number [Co. number], registered office [street], [location] Business Park, [town], Nottinghamshire, [post code], VAT No. [VAT number].
> For further information about [company name] products and services then visit our web site at [company name].co.uk<http://www.[company name].co.uk/> or [company name].com<http://www.[company name].com/>
> or contact us via telephone on [Phone] or fax on [Fax}>
Sometimes he only writes 1 line! If he gets into a long conversation 8 lines of reply require pages of scrolling.
|aecurtis ||30 Jun 2011 3:59 a.m. PST|
The Yahoo Group is not the problem. The poster and his sig are the problem, as is the moderator who does not discipline him or give him the boot.
| Tango 2 3 Ditto ||30 Jun 2011 4:11 a.m. PST|
There are far too many people these days who know absolutely nothing about email and how to use it. The admin of the group needs to start cracking down on this sort of thing.
Worse though, the idiots who run that company's email system who are usually the ones responsible for such tack-ons (though the poster could have done it himself, in which case he's a total twit) are similarly not on the ball. There's no need of all that crap, just the "Visit out Website" and a URL. Big company logos are irritating and stupid as well.
However, to the credit of the company admins, the blurb seems to avoid the usual "if you've been sent this by accident
delete it" garbage which is pointless – if someone is stupid enough to send me plans of the fusion powered submarine spaceship under development, too bad – that's as careless as leaving documents at a coffee house (or in the case of one senior minister in Canada a number of years ago, NATO secret docs in his girl friend's apartment) or accidentally mailing the plans to a street address of 26 IHateTheFreeWorld Way.
At least the yahoo user in question using traditional original message prefixes
|xxxxxxxxooooo ||30 Jun 2011 4:53 a.m. PST|
| Dom Skelton ||30 Jun 2011 5:23 a.m. PST|
I like 'em for all their undeniable faults; the convenience of multiple groups in one place really out-weighs them. I'm a member of many different forums (a good number of which replaced Yahoo groups) and truth be told never bother visiting them – they might have better features, but I'm simply not going to go to 20 different sites every day, so Yahoo's a winner. If you have very specific interests, then a dedicated forum or two is a winner, but for the dilettante, no contest
|average joe ||30 Jun 2011 6:02 a.m. PST|
Ditto, don't blame the admins – blame the lawyers and marketing people that clamor to get that junk added to all outgoing email.
| Tango 2 3 Ditto ||30 Jun 2011 6:30 a.m. PST|
Heh heh heh Joe, are you one of those admins, then?
|Terrement ||30 Jun 2011 7:03 a.m. PST|
I'm in over 100 of them, of which I visit about 10 very regularly and the rest I check 1-2 times a month. Haven't seen this problem in these groups.
| Flintloque ||30 Jun 2011 8:24 a.m. PST|
|Shagnasty||30 Jun 2011 8:59 a.m. PST|
|religon ||30 Jun 2011 9:59 a.m. PST|
I like them better than most alternatives.
| Lentulus ||30 Jun 2011 2:39 p.m. PST|
..that clamor to get that junk added
I doubt that it is a "work related" yahoo group. Folks should know not to post from work e-mail.
Still, yahoo groups are dead easy to form, and have been for quite a while. What is out there these days for dead-easy-to-start-and-administer free forum hosts? Looking for personal recommendations, I can Google for sponsored adds myself.
|Last Hussar||30 Jun 2011 5:54 p.m. PST|
That sig is just one problem. It really annoys me that all the other messages get appended if people don't edit them out.
|John Leahy ||30 Jun 2011 9:49 p.m. PST|
Sorry, but Yahoo groups have had a large impact on gamers. Forums have their positives. But usually they don't have a photo or file section. They also require joining a large number of individual forums. I am a member of over 200 and mod about 20. I can't see the hobby without them.
|Last Hussar||01 Jul 2011 2:04 a.m. PST|
Yes, you should be sorry
|The G Dog ||01 Jul 2011 3:45 a.m. PST|
Please Put The Environment First.
My personal pet peeve. Usually accompanied by some 'go green' graphic that doubles the size of a simple e-mail.
|gweirda ||01 Jul 2011 7:03 a.m. PST|
really annoys me that all the other messages get appended if people don't edit them out."
That's my pet-peeve (and applies equally to emails -I mean, c'mon bro': a second or two with the 'backspace/delete' key would kill you?).
| Flashman14 ||01 Jul 2011 2:04 p.m. PST|
Great communities but lousy interfaces
Maybe we could create rules based boards here so folks wouldn't have to go to Yahoo. I'll get me coat
|show some respect for women ||02 Jul 2011 9:58 a.m. PST|
Forums are OK.
It is actually easier to search/research a Yahoo group -- all you need is a key word and you get everything on the group.
Given my druthers. I like Yahoo groups best.
|Hauptmann6 ||24 Aug 2011 10:03 p.m. PST|
I like the yahoo groups cause I can set them to work like the old mailing lists. It works well for me. All the messages show up in thunderbird and get sorted to the lists folder.