"Jim Morrison: Most boring overrated singer of all time?" Topic

I defy anyone to listen to "LA Woman" and tell me what 30% of the lyrics are.
"Uh diggi diggi doggy doggy doogy doogy do!"

Overrated in this sense means: "So many people think he is a genius, but I think he sucks."
No one has ever accused George Michael, or Phil Collins of being geniuses, by the way. Morrison was called one, and he believed it.

Michael and Collins are singer/songwriters, Morrison fancied himself a poet.

He wasn't.

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some sweary stuff in there^

Still, he's been quiet lately
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Hmm, he may have been guilty of self indulgence, but then so were Led Zeppelin. I think he had a certain star quality, almost an American Mick Jagger. Dying young always helps.

You need to watch the movie The Doors over and over again.

On acid.

Then you will appreciate the genius of Jim.

I think The Doors had an interesting sound… I don't know that that makes any of them a 'genius'… and yeah, if he hadn't died so early on then Morrison would probably be playing nowadays in some casino lounge out on the highway.

How you can say that, thinking it is a low end to a career, when Rod Blagojevich is doing bad Elvis impresonations and introducing Fabio impersonators.

Bow THAT is a low ebb and compared to death ot that, I'm sure JM might have picked lounge singer

The sound of the Doors was good. They were and still are quite popular. He wasn't a genius but drugs tend to influence a persons judgement.

Thanks,

John

The Doors remind me of a very good band with Homer Simpson as the lead singer.

I didn't like The Doors very much in the Sixties when I was young and fairly indiscriminate in my musical tastes. Nothing has occurred in the intervening years to change my opinion.

John, I think I'd have to agree with you to the point that, if Morrison was a solo artist, he would be remembered as a novelty, like Tiny Tim. On the other hand, he was backed up by a band that transformed his lyrics into memorable songs of a generation. Couple that with his early death, and voilą, a "genius".

Kinda hard to define what "true genius" is these days. I personally reserve that title for the old masters of classical music.

Yeah, Mozart comes to mind.

John

The Doors remind me of a very good band with Homer Simpson as the lead singer.

Are you kidding? Homer was brilliant as the front man for Sadgasm! Shave Me, Margerine and Politically Incorrect were some of the best songs of their era.
Here are the lyrics from Margerine:
spread your love girl on my pancake heart like country churn girl in my
grocery cart i paid for her dreams she tought me to cry like watery nights
like rain from my eyes i can't belive your not mine i can't belive
your not mine margine, margine, margine, margine, margine.
Sadgasm's videos were hailed for their symbolism.

"Genius" is knowing instinctively how and when to cut and run. Several have been mentioned already….

I rather liked Mr. Morrison's songs as performed by Krusty the Klown, myself. Brought a certain je ne sais quoi to them.

Tsk tsk. Jim was a brilliant artist with a voice that could touch a persons soul. You are probably right though, in these days of Idol and other commercial nonsence, Jim just wouldn't fit in with the cookie cutter "songs" that are churned out today.

The reason so many don't understand him, is the proper conditioning of the masses. Show me a Doors fan, and I'll show you an idividualist, and an independant thinker. That's why so many fans are still loyal to this day to what he tried to accomplish.

I can't explain in detail what the man was about, and even if I could, most of you wouldn't get it anyway, because it's a state of mind or attitude that is conveyed.

If I had a rock band, I'd be more than happy to lay claim to these songs:
The End
Light My Fire
Love Me Two Times
LA Woman
Hello, I Love You
People Are Strange
Break On Through
Love Her Madly
Touch Me
Riders on the Storm
20th Century Fox.

I like Jim.

My vote for most BOSOAT would go to Barbara Streisand, but I am aware that voicing that opinion could be bad for my health.

Cyrus. Good list, but you forgot 'The Wasp (Texas Radio and the Big Beat). One of my faves.

Me Pro Jim Here.

Pat

Jim Morrison: Most boring overrated singer of all time?

Nah.
Elvis comes to mind as more boring and more overrated, for example, though he had some good solid product too.

The Doors weren't the best band of all time, but they made a bunch of good music that has stood the test of time.
-Kle.

Be fore you slip into un-conciousness, I'd…. like to have an nother kiss, another lasting kissss, a kis another kiss, another kiss.

I swear that I sung this line and got laid at least 8 times because of it. Not because I am a good singer, but because it somehow invokes an honest heartfelt sincerity. And no, 8 is not a lot when you consider that it is over the course of 35 years. What's interesting, is that it still works today if you still have a heart. For those of you who are married, try it some time. you may find the power of a genious, and get closer to your spouce at the same time.

Wierd Al Yankovic did a Morrison-like number called "Craigslist". Even had the Doors' keyboard man playing backup.

Moonhippie, why are the 8 girls in question slipping into unconsciousness?

"Hi, mind if I ask you a question?"
"Giggle, sure!"
"If you woke up one morning, with no recollection of the night before's events. but sore and fairly certain you had been repatedly ed, but like I say no idea who it was or anything, would you tell anyone?"
"No! Giggle Giggle"
"Cool. Here, I bought you a drink."

Pat

Cyrus. Good list, but you forgot 'The Wasp (Texas Radio and the Big Beat). One of my faves.

Whatisitgood4atwork,

Just my list of favorites. Add to, or subtract from it as you please. The Doors still sell a million records a year. I'd take that too!

The Doors did have some great songs. But, overall, I don't really care for them. Jim Morrison is one reason why I don't care for them.

The vague insinuation that people who don't like The Doors or Jim Morrison are "conformist drones" or what have you is somewhat offensive…

Morrison fancied himself a poet.

He wasn't.

Oh come on, how can you dismiss <apologies in advance, but it's from the lyrics to one of the songs from the Lizard King> "I sacrifice my cock on the altar of silence" as not being poetic?
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Tim

The lyrics for L.A. Woman since this is what started it all:

Well, I just got into town about an hour ago
Took a look around, see which way the wind blow
Where the little girls in their hollywood bungalows
Are you a lucky little lady in the city of light
Or just another lost angel…city of night
City of night, city of night, city of night, woo, cmon
L.a. woman, l.a. woman
L.a. woman sunday afternoon x3
Drive through your suburbs
Into your blues, into your blues, yeah
Into your blue-blue blues
Into your blues, ohh, yeah
I see your hair is burnin
Hills are filled with fire
If they say I never loved you
You know they are a liar
Drivin down your freeways
Midnight alleys roam
Cops in cars, the topless bars
Never saw a woman…
So alone, so alone x2
Motel money murder madness
Lets change the mood from glad to sadness
Mr. mojo risin, mr. mojo risin x2
Got to keep on risin
Mr. mojo risin, mr. mojo risin
Mojo risin, gotta mojo risin
Mr. mojo risin, gotta keep on risin
Risin, risin
Gone risin, risin
Im gone risin, risin
I gotta risin, risin
Well, risin, risin
I gotta, wooo, yeah, risin
Woah, ohh yeah
Well, I just got into town about an hour ago
Took a look around, see which way the wind blow
Where the little girls in their hollywood bungalows
Are you a lucky little lady in the city of light
Or just another lost angel…city of night
City of night, city of night, city of night, woah, cmon
L.a. woman, l.a. woman, l.a. woman, your my woman
Little l.a. woman, little l.a. woman
L.a. l.a. woman woman, l.a. woman cmon

I'd give the title to Dylan, mostly because he's had a longer time to dig the hole while being put on a higher pedestal.

Wyatt

Can't you like the Doors without likeing Jim Morrison?

"I sacrifice my cock on the altar of silence"

LOL!

This thread prompted me to break out 'L.A. Woman' once more. It still sounds good to me.

"Stronger than dirt."

Most boring overrated singer of all time ?

That would be Paul McCartney.

There's no point picking on George Michael or Phil Collins – they are just vacuous pop fluff and so nothing is to be expected of them.

Ahh but who's the most underrated.

I'd vote for Buddy Holly, not quite Elvis, but hardly gets any airtime next to the king, and left a string of classic rock and roll during a very short career.

Elvis… boring?

To be at least a little fair, I'd think you have to take the performer (no matter whom they are) in the context of their time.

Elvis in his time was ANYTHING but boring. With society's march further and further into blatant sexuality over the years, I would agree his antics in his era do not stand the test of time and he has thus become by todays standards, boring, but in his time… Let's face it; he was de facto blamed for the corruption of a generation until Ed Sullivan declared him an alright guy.

Elvis ? This is the same Elvis whoi bequethed the world "Wooden Heart ?"

Oh, what a rebel. What blatent sexuality.

I'll take Muddy Waters anyday – he, at the least, was a hoochie-coochie man. I also have it on good authority that he was a natural born lovin' man. In fact (and even his mother agreed) he was a M A N.