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Colin Hagreen19 Apr 2010 7:36 a.m. PST

I misread that as Immoral Miniatures. Which gave me a much different idea of what the figures were going to look like.

Very nice…

Rajmahal19 Apr 2010 7:41 a.m. PST

Lovely looking unit and great value. What size are the bases? 25mm square, 20mm square or something else?

legatushedlius19 Apr 2010 8:07 a.m. PST

Hmm just trying to put some of the shield transfers on and not having much luck. As they dry they just drop off. Any tips? What am I doing wrong?

EagleSixFive19 Apr 2010 8:12 a.m. PST

Make sure the surfsce is glossy, decals won't stick to matt paint.

Add some diluted white glue to make them more tacky.

Buy some decal setting solution from the hobby shop, like Microsol to soften the decal.

jpwalker19 Apr 2010 8:16 a.m. PST

Would the decals stick to a coating of dull coat? Or would it be best to hit the model with a gloss coat, decal, then hit it again with a dull coat?

templar7219 Apr 2010 8:17 a.m. PST

Is there a way to pose the figures where they are in more of a standing pose or do they have to be attacking? I find it difficult sometimes to form up units when they are all attacking overhand. Are all the shields the same size? In the photo of the sprue some look smaller than others and some seem a bit large. Great pack though.

@legatusshedlius I always gloss coat the figure before applying the decal. You might also try applying some Micro Sol which will make it stick very well. Here is pretty good article.

Ed G

Steve At Immortal Miniatures19 Apr 2010 8:26 a.m. PST

Re: Transfers. So far, I have just applied them directly over the paint, (I use GW colours, if it matters!) but I know gloss varnish helps it stick. Cut out carefully around them and give them a soak in warm water for about 30 seconds. I slide it off of the backing paper and onto the shield. Microsol is excellent for some of the larger ones. It can help if you make tiny score lines around the circumfrance of the larger decals to allow it to fold along the contours. After it is dry I gloss varnish the face and then matt varnish it.
I'll put a guide online next week hopefully.

You get enough 'at ease' arms for 16 figures. I would have included more, but they wouldn't fit on the frame!
There are 3 different shield sizes. one has a large rim which makes it a tad bigger but is still within accurate size.

GreatScot7219 Apr 2010 8:39 a.m. PST

Steve, these are great-looking figures. I can't wait to get ahold of a box or three. Do you have any plans to do an opposing force in plastic?

Steve At Immortal Miniatures19 Apr 2010 8:54 a.m. PST

Just finishing off the plastic Persian archers/Sparabara this week. They will be on show at Salute!

GreatScot7219 Apr 2010 9:05 a.m. PST

That's terrific!!

Caesar19 Apr 2010 9:08 a.m. PST

A war rhino would break up that formation in a heartbeat.

Nice looking models.

elsyrsyn19 Apr 2010 9:11 a.m. PST

Those are fantastic.


Jamesonsafari19 Apr 2010 9:12 a.m. PST

Well done! Not my period but I forsee a boost in playing the PErsian Wars coming soon.

AronBC19 Apr 2010 9:12 a.m. PST

So awesome! Just the wrong scale for me. Almost enough to tempt me to go back to 25s, almost . . .

templar7219 Apr 2010 9:14 a.m. PST

Thanks for the quick reply Steve. I look forward to getting some.

Ed G.

Rajmahal19 Apr 2010 9:16 a.m. PST

Great stuff … any ideas about the base size? 20mm wide or 25mm or something else? Thanks,

ThorLongus19 Apr 2010 9:27 a.m. PST

wow,they look great and well designed. no problems at the shoulder joints or ungainly arm positions
and the options for over/under arm spear
and the transfers
now for the poor persians

WarWizard19 Apr 2010 9:30 a.m. PST

Great deal since they include the decals also!

Steve At Immortal Miniatures19 Apr 2010 9:37 a.m. PST

Sorry Rajmahal, I missed your post.
The bases are 20mm x 20mm. I would think they would fit on a 15mm wide base, but you would need 20mm in depth. Renedra make a great range of plastic bases in a few different sizes.
Caesar: Plastic war rino was on the cards, but I thought people may find it 'inaccurate' for some reason :)

Dewbakuk19 Apr 2010 9:47 a.m. PST

Caesar: Plastic war rino was on the cards, but I thought people may find it 'inaccurate' for some reason :)

That's loser talk! Make it anyway :D

kallman19 Apr 2010 9:49 a.m. PST

Do these match well size wise to Foundry and Crusader Hoplites? I have tons of those but I would love to add these to the collection if they are not too out of proportion with each other. Fantastic looking figures regardless. Will there be Persians coming out anytime soon?

Porkmann19 Apr 2010 9:55 a.m. PST

Are these of the same elegant and slim proportions as their metal brethren or somewhat bigger?

I wouldn't size the lovely metal chaps as 28s – they don't mix well with the pumpkincephalic ranges out there.

Steve At Immortal Miniatures19 Apr 2010 10:11 a.m. PST

They are the same height as my metals, but ever so slightly thicker. It can be difficult to estimate the final scale when you sculpt them at 3 times the size, but I am very happy with the size they have turned out.
I will post some comparison photos with my metals this week.
I can't give an estimate on the Persians, but it will be this year!

Ali Oop19 Apr 2010 10:24 a.m. PST

Lovely miniatures.

Probert19 Apr 2010 10:33 a.m. PST

OK I am convinced. My next FOG army will be in 28mm.

Porkmann19 Apr 2010 11:07 a.m. PST

Good news – look forward to the comparisons.

Augustus19 Apr 2010 11:24 a.m. PST

Jebus…these are just plain awesome.

No words.

Should have sent a poet.

Binky the Wonder Pig19 Apr 2010 11:32 a.m. PST

Ooooooo, purdy miniatures!

I think I will be getting some of these. Persians could be really good, as you need an auful lot more of them than you do Greeks!

Binky says "Oink"

Timmo uk19 Apr 2010 11:45 a.m. PST

Re decals. They are best applied to a glossy surface. Matt paint has a texture that the decals don't quite stick down to so you can get silvering. Gloss the model first and let the varnish go hard. Apply micro set, slide on the decal and position before leaving for 20 mins. Add Micro set so it melts into the surface (it'll look painted on if you use Micro set). Leave overnight to dry. Add a coat of gloss acrylic varnish to protect some spirit based varnish will attack decals so be careful on varnish choice. Once all dry use matt varnish.

hdspain19 Apr 2010 12:58 p.m. PST

These figures are perfect. When I entered our local Wargames shop Atlantica in Madrid on Saturday, this release was one of the main topics people were speaking about. Holger.

colin knight19 Apr 2010 2:16 p.m. PST

I really like how how all is presented in one box including tranfers and guide booklet. Ideal for people new to the period aswell as us oldies.

WombatDazzler19 Apr 2010 2:32 p.m. PST


legatushedlius19 Apr 2010 3:30 p.m. PST

Thanks everyone for the decal tips but, boy, what a palaver! I bought the decals as a quick solution so I didn't have to paint them on. Maybe I'll go back to painting them instead; lovely though the transfers are!

Jeff at JTFM Enterprises19 Apr 2010 7:20 p.m. PST

More toys to buy!

Jim Bowen20 Apr 2010 2:00 a.m. PST

These look fantastic cant wait to get hold of some

colin knight20 Apr 2010 3:05 a.m. PST

So much great stuff coming out. I will be making a trip to Salute next year. Too much going on to miss out on.

Steve At Immortal Miniatures20 Apr 2010 3:08 a.m. PST

Jim, Im sure I will be sending some your way soon ;)

WarrenB20 Apr 2010 6:41 a.m. PST

Purdy. Some nice details on those. The feet look a bit wrong though. A 'Lovecraft' kind of wrong. grin

Warren B.

Gecoren20 Apr 2010 10:20 a.m. PST

The feet look fine to me, but its hard to tell from one photo. I'll tell you when I pick up some at Salute on Saturday.

Also looking forward to the Persians and the next two boxed sets of Greeks!


WereSandwich20 Apr 2010 10:37 a.m. PST

Ooh, will definitely be getting some of these at salute.

wargame insomniac20 Apr 2010 2:24 p.m. PST

Will these do for Macedonian era Greek mercenaries? I suspect that the armour is a bit too early, but thought worth asking.



Binky the Wonder Pig20 Apr 2010 3:22 p.m. PST

Ohhh, to be at Salute this year……

Now with 250% of the US F&D RDA of volcanic ash!

Binky says "oink"

Steve At Immortal Miniatures21 Apr 2010 4:13 a.m. PST

Hi Wargame Insomniac.
Some of the figures can be. You can use the linen armoured figures and leave out the bell cuirass'. You'll have to leave out the corinthian helmets too, but you get enough other styles to use in their place.
I'll be making the command frame available online so people can replace the bell cuirass with the later muscle one.

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