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boggler04 Aug 2020 4:21 a.m. PST

Fantastic!

At last, a decent range of 15mm figures and from a top notch sculptor. Can't wait!

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Aug 2020 5:00 a.m. PST

Thank you.

More soon
martin

Hal Thinglum Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2020 5:08 a.m. PST

Congratulations, Martin. Figures look great, per usual, and a very interesting period. Hal

Personal logo David Manley Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2020 6:36 a.m. PST

Look like they have uses way beyond the revolution

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2020 6:37 a.m. PST

I agree. You can probably use these figures for quite a number of things.

RittervonBek04 Aug 2020 7:31 a.m. PST

I have thought for a long time that the vast scope of Peter Pig ranges from Colonial through to the Spanish Civil War provides a valuable resource for innumerable Imagination settings. There must be few armies in Space 1889 Soldier's Companion which can't be modelled with some reasonable degree of success.

BeneathALeadMountain04 Aug 2020 7:43 a.m. PST

Well I don't know much about the Mexican Revolution but now I know that Martin started it :) . Great stuff should have some good models for my Peter Pig based Very British Civil War forces I'm slowly working on.

BALM

47Ronin04 Aug 2020 11:32 a.m. PST

BALM,

If you want the Hollywood version of the history of the Mexican Revolution, track down the following films:

"Viva Zapata!" with Marlon Brando; and

"100 Rifles" with Jim Brown, Raquel Welch, Burt Reynolds and Hans Gudegast (of "The Rat Patrol" TV show).

Both movies have inspired GMs (like me) in the past when it comes to ideas for skirmish games set in the Mexican Revolution. The above figures from Peter Pig would fit right in for such a game.

Enjoy.

47Ronin04 Aug 2020 11:46 a.m. PST

P.S.--Two other entertaining films set in the Mexican Revolution, each with a great director:

"The Wild Bunch", with Sam Peckinpah and

"Duck You Sucker" with Sergio Leone.

For some reason, the Mexican Revolution was very popular with filmmakers in the 1970's.

The movies make for a great painting guide. You also get an idea of local terrain and buildings, etc.

marshalney200004 Aug 2020 1:16 p.m. PST

Also Villa Rides and Viva Villa. Always get these mixed up but one was with Yul Brynner and the other Telly Savalas.
Best of all though was Starring Pancho Villa as himself with Antonio Banderas. Quirky and with real period feel.
Finally who could forget the Professionals with Lee Marvin and Burt Lancaster.

Henry Martini04 Aug 2020 6:30 p.m. PST

If it's the cinematic Mex Rev that primarily interests you there's the Pulp Figures 28mm range. I suspect that, being a 15mm manufacturer, Martin is targeting this range mainly at the true historicals market.

I certainly wouldn't recommend using movies as reference sources if your goal is to produce historically accurate figures.

Having said that, some of these figures appear to be wearing some sort of ankle gaiter, which isn't historical. Also, some of the jackets are a bit too long.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 1:21 a.m. PST

Don't think whomever Henry is and i will ever agree about anything, but there we go.
This happens quite a lot.
I remember A US customer asking Brookhurst to send back their stock of AWI British to us because they had round hats, making them confederates.

The movies are indeed a great resource for this war.
I highly recommend "starring Pancho Villa as himself". A very well done movie.
Professionals is very good for uniforms too.
The Marlon Brando "Zapata" is on the money too.

These movies and the Villa rides ones make a really good start point.


martin

HRGWORLDS Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 4:31 a.m. PST

These look really nice. I will keep an eye out for more from the range. We just released EAGLE'S PREY: VILLA RIDES Rules for the Mexican Revolution. Visit our VILLARIDES groups.io and find out more.

We mostly game in 25/28mm, but a complete range in 15mm will get more gamers excited about this fun period!

Henry Martini05 Aug 2020 6:53 a.m. PST

That startlingly unfounded allegation and the attitude it conveys rather took me by surprise, Mr Goddard. I can't say I recall any exchange with you on this forum or any other that would justify it. Perhaps you would be so kind as to point me towards an example.

There's no question that movies are and always have been a great resource for Hollywood costumes, including that illustrious institution's invariably inaccurate depiction of historical military uniforms of whatever era, but
as you've now made clear that that's the aesthetic you're trying to achieve your figures obviously can't be faulted for their historical accuracy (their cinematic accuracy is another matter I'll have to leave to the numerous expert commentators on TMP).

I have in years gone by been a purchaser of your products, and I might have yet been again… but for your churlish response to my post.

Wargamer Blue05 Aug 2020 7:07 a.m. PST

Don't worry Martin, I'll buy Henry's share.

boggler05 Aug 2020 8:06 a.m. PST

Me too. :0)

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 8:31 a.m. PST

Dear Anonymous
I am not going to engage in an argument with an anonymous poster.
I will not be reading your future posts.
My loss I am sure.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Aug 2020 8:36 a.m. PST

I think it has a lot of potential as a period.
I cannot take credit for the idea of this range.
It has been e mails and messages on forums such as this that have persuaded me to "take the plunge".
It is a very complex period as the pieces (politicians, troops etc ) change an awful lot.
Initial packs will all be government ones. Thus, it might be a while until anyone can get both sides fully equipped.


martin

marshalney200005 Aug 2020 1:02 p.m. PST

Patience is a virtue.

Henry Martini05 Aug 2020 6:55 p.m. PST

Ay, ay, ay… Madre de Dios!

Basha Felika06 Aug 2020 2:06 p.m. PST

While we're on the subject of cinematic inspiration, "Viva Maria" is essential viewing for the period. (The 1965 film, not the Eurovision Song Contest entry!)

You'll never look at a Maxim Gun in the same way ever again and I do hope Martin sculpts a character pack inspired by its crew.

YouTube link

JD Lee08 Aug 2020 6:52 a.m. PST

Great figures as always!

Prince Alberts Revenge08 Aug 2020 10:06 a.m. PST

Always felt we needed a Mexican Revolution range in smaller scales, I'm primarily a 10mm gamer but may need to indulge in these 15mm gems.

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