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Personal logo 28mm Fanatik Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2019 3:01 p.m. PST

When did Italian tanks have zimmerit?

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2019 4:29 p.m. PST

And are all those dots meant to be rivets?

d88mm1940 Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2019 10:36 p.m. PST

It's not zimmerit. It's the famous Italian string armor. When the Italian tanker wives and mothers sent them packages, they kept the string and when there was enough, they wrapped their tanks.
It wasn't always effective though…

Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2019 10:38 p.m. PST

As I was told when I asked here on TMP, those lines come from the quality of the print and the material used.

All the models made are great, the CAD files are fine. It's just the models which get printed and photographed are rough. It's the failure point in his catalogue.

And yes, the dots are rivets.

Royal Marine Supporting Member of TMP03 Feb 2019 2:47 a.m. PST

Plenty to keep the rivet counters happy then ;-)
These look good BTW.

Herce Salon de Guerre03 Feb 2019 3:20 a.m. PST

still a long way to go before I purchase printed models

Mr Jones03 Feb 2019 3:27 a.m. PST

They're awful. Next!

gunnerphil03 Feb 2019 7:43 a.m. PST

Each to his own. I have bought from them and they are fine. Not as nice as resin or cast plastic, but as good as metal.

Perhaps should look at web site read reviews from people who have actually bought some.

Corwin03 Feb 2019 9:02 a.m. PST

I was pretty harsh on these based on the pictures before but I now have a few different models after seeing them up close at the club – the printer is not ideal for slopes but chunky stuff like KV's etc. are fine. Some of the fiddly bits can take some prising out of the print frame but once you've done a couple they respond well to a systematic approach.

Also if you ask for stuff no-one else does he's really quick to sort it out – like gunnerphil says give them a chance.

Personal logo jhancock Supporting Member of TMP03 Feb 2019 9:09 a.m. PST

And give him a newer 3D printer!

redmist112203 Feb 2019 9:21 a.m. PST

Having just received a 3D printer for Christmas, will tell you all, there is a LARGE learning curve. Knowing what I know now, the "CAD" files or better yet the "STL" files are developed by a designer…that can be good or bad. Next is running the STL file into a "Slicer" program. This is where money is made. In the slicer program you can dial up/down the quality of the print and make about another 100 calibrations. So when you see a product like this on TMP…yeah…not a very good print. Why? The printer was not set for the best quality. I have learned most companies will dial down the quality for a faster print and use of less material.

Nope, will not buy/pay stupid money on low quality items…will make my own…even if it takes a couple of days.


Volleyfire03 Feb 2019 1:24 p.m. PST

Looks like they're expecting British troops with their tea mugs, they've put coasters all over their nice little tank so the tea doesn't spill and rust the armour.

PraetorianHistorian04 Feb 2019 5:48 a.m. PST

I do 3D modeling and printing in my home and this is just awful quality. I went to Butler's website to check out his other models and they are really lacking. He needs to dial in his printer better because those prices are not justified. I printed all my Bolt Action vehicles and they look just as good as the store bought stuff but I also have my printer dialed in correctly and I am printing on very high settings for detail. One tank can take 10 hours.

Garand04 Feb 2019 6:55 a.m. PST

Although a different genre, I recently ordered a figure from Heroforge. For those not aware, its a service that will 3D print your figure for fantasy or SF games, based on the data you provide them (there is an interface with a number of pre-selects that allow you to build a 3D model). I chose the high detail option, & while it wasn't cheap ($30 for a single 28mm figure) the detail was very good with very fine scanlines. I just primed it & did a little clean up -- less than what I would do on a metal figure. So good results ARE achievable. But it'll cost ya…


companycmd04 Feb 2019 7:48 a.m. PST

OMG just stop. If you're models from your 3D printer come out like this just keep it to yourself. Please. You're not helping.

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2019 1:54 p.m. PST

I would like to see it primed and painted. I bet in some scales it's perfectly acceptable.

Corwin05 Feb 2019 9:14 a.m. PST

Just went to order a few bits and see that a 10% across the board price increase has been applied in the last week or so, suddenly lead is back in cost comparison or other resins, oh well never mind.

companycmd05 Feb 2019 9:22 a.m. PST


please 3-D print a series of 3" tall trees. And price them so weez can buy them.

Puster Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2019 3:23 p.m. PST

If you want trees, there currently is a kickstarter running for trees modelled along the gw plastic set – these surely can be scaled up to where you want them.

If this is not what you want – just tell me what you need for as "tree", and I might give it a try.

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