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Trebian08 Jul 2019 11:39 a.m. PST

Is this group in anyway connected with the "Wargame Developments",which was founded by the late Paddy Griffith in 1980. They do have an on-line presence (Google "Model Wargame Develoments" and you'll find it) as well as publish a magazine and run an annual conference. Whilst it is great to have a replacement for the SOTCW, wouldn't it be more sensible to have a name that sort of says something like that rather than pinch another group's name and put "Model" on the front of it? If you're going to do that, why not go the whole hog and call yourself "Model Wargames Research Group"?

Bob the Temple Builder08 Jul 2019 12:35 p.m. PST

I have written to Mark Wheeler, who is launching the Model Wargames Developments group, asking him to change the name to avoid any possible confusion with WARGAME DEVELOPMENTS. As yet I have had no reply.

This new group HAS NO LINKS WHATSOEVER with the long-established WARGAME DEVELOPMENTS (WD). WD was set up at the instigation of the late Dr Paddy Griffith, and has been operating as a clearing house for ideas, concepts, and wargame design developments since 1980. In fact, it has just held its thirty-ninth annual conference the CONFERENCE OF WARGAMERS (COW).

I hope that Mark's replacement for the SOTCW will prosper, but that he finds another name for it.

Link to Wargame Developments =

Bob the Temple Builder08 Jul 2019 11:59 p.m. PST

It would appear that the Model Wargames Developments group is NOT a replacement for the SOTCW either (see Richard Baber's recent comment on TMP), so I'm not sure what its function is other than to confuse both members of WARGAME DEVELOPMENTS (WD) and the SOTCW.

As yet I still have had no reply from Mark Wheeler, who is using what appears to be the SOTCW email address.

Russell4209 Jul 2019 2:50 a.m. PST

Bob is correct, the SOTCW hasn't folded, just changed form. We used to publish articles and reviews in The Journal, now we do it on our website:

We also have a forum: and Facebook group: link

After we made the decision to discontinue The Journal, there was some discussion around the possibility of Mark setting up these new publications under the SOTCW name. Ultimately, though, he decided not to do so.

Yesthatphil09 Jul 2019 6:33 a.m. PST

This does seem very confusing frown


Trebian09 Jul 2019 9:36 a.m. PST

@Russell42. But why would he choose the name of another group instead?

Tinned Stew10 Jul 2019 12:06 a.m. PST

From what's been posted by Mark on the SoTCW forum it seems the best way to persuade him to change the name is to give him ten quid (sign up) and then tell him to change it, as he thinks the word 'model' in the name makes a clear enough distinction, but will listen to his paying customers (he does point out here that they are not subscribers).

Russell4210 Jul 2019 1:24 a.m. PST

Trebian: I don't know. All I can really tell you is what he said on the SOTCW forum: That it simply didn't occur to him that the name was so similar to that of Wargames Developments.

Trebian10 Jul 2019 2:59 a.m. PST

@Russel;42. Just went and read that. I suppose it could be true. I don't know Mark Wheeler so I have no reason to doubt him. I suspect that WD needs to write to all the relevant magazines and draw attention to the differences between the two organisations.

@Tinned Stew. I can't see me doing that for now.

Bob the Temple Builder11 Jul 2019 4:50 a.m. PST

I have finally made contact with Mark Wheeler (I had been using the wrong email address!) and he has very kindly agreed to change the tile of his organisation in order to avoid any possible confusion.

In a hobby where fostering good relationships between various individuals and organisations is vitally important, it was pleasant to discuss this situation in such a civilised way, and to resolve it so quickly and decisively. I for one hope that MWD will grow and prosper, and it will certainly be getting my support.

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