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Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP13 May 2017 11:59 a.m. PST

Did go. Surprisingly nothing fatlardesqly innovative there.
Was quite trying to figure out the collection og mugs behind him. Resisted temptation so far, nicely.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP13 May 2017 12:41 p.m. PST

Videos are well done allowing the viewer to gauge his level of interest in purchasing the rules. I'm on the fence at this point leaning toward 'not for me'.

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP13 May 2017 1:29 p.m. PST

The videos are well done, on the point. Strangely those Rich did on SP2 grabed me more. Just the rules did.
A huge done of La victoire est nous.

Battle Phlox13 May 2017 1:31 p.m. PST

From what I am seeing I like the rules so far. My only question is about basing. If I already have models do I have to re-base them?

IanKHemm13 May 2017 6:01 p.m. PST

I've been looking forward to General d'Armee and already have my pre-order in. I thought they seemed similar to Pickett's Charge and the videos confirm this. Just hope I can convince my fellow players to give the rules a try.

Alcibiades14 May 2017 8:14 a.m. PST

Battle Phlox: I think we all share your concern when it comes to new rules. Who wants to rebase? I don't think you need have any worries in that regard as the rules are designed to allow any basing system.

On a different note, the rules are called General D'Armee but seem to focus on the Division which could hardly be called an army. I wonder how these rules scale up to the Corps/multi Corps level? I don't want to go to the level of abstraction found in Blucher, GA, AoE, or ESR and we have the time, space and collections to fight larger battles on the battalion/Sqdn. level. Does a Corps commander have his own Aides to use to order his Divisions and the other units under his direct control, ie. Artillery Reserve/attached Cavalry Divisions, which in turn order their Brigades, or, is he a glorified Divisional Commander dispensing Aides to the Brigades thereby cutting out the Divisional level of command?

Anyway, I have these on pre-Order and look forward to giving them a thorough read and try out.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP14 May 2017 11:25 a.m. PST

From watching the videos and reading (but NOT playing) Pickett's Charge re-basing does not appear to be necessary. I'm not anyway!

In Pickett's Charge a Corps Commander is given additional Staff Officers (Aides) to distribute to his division commanders who in turn distribute them to his brigadiers as he sees fit. Corps assets can be held in reserve and assigned to divisions as needed or allocated before the battle begins.

I assume (and we all know what that means!) after watching the videos that General D'Armee is similar in its command rules to Pickett's Charge.

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP14 May 2017 12:25 p.m. PST

Staff officers are just relabelled command points. He said corps levels needs multiplayer. So it is really not intended to be used much above.
Alcibiades
You might be better expending ESR with unit formations and some bits like that, if that is what you want , to have the army level fight. Should not be too complicated.

Rules that are really intended for lower tactical levels often prove cumbersome or inadequate with a lot of units. They were just not done with this in mind.
You light just wait for next videos, he will explain more.

nsolomon99 Supporting Member of TMP14 May 2017 6:57 p.m. PST

In my experience Dave Brown's rules are pretty well thought through and communicate loads of period feel. I've played General De Brigade( all 3 editions), Picketts Charge and Der Krieg Kunste (Seven Years War).

Yes, the ADC's are command points but I much prefer the feel of assigning an ADC with a task or urgent order than spending a command point. Sounds and feels much better.

All of Dave's rules can scale up if you want to spend some effort. Picketts Charge has a system for scaling up to Corps and beyond so I imagine General D Armee will do the same.

Wasn't so impressed with ESR that I'd use it over General D Armee, I found it very abstract, for me too much had been sacrificed for fast play at the higher levels. It lacked a lot of feel for the period.

To each his own I'll gladly spend more time to get more detail and feel but I recognise not everyone has space to leave a table up and the battle running for a couple of weekends in a row.

Teppsta20 May 2017 4:50 p.m. PST

Hi – I have some experience in playing GdA and I think it is incorrect to call the ADCs command points. They work differently. In GdA all units can move and shoot without the need for an ADC at all, but there is the chance that something will affect their expected behaviour – Battlefield friction. The GDAs can be used in different ways – they can either be distributed amongst the brigades to try and ensure that the friction does not occur, or they can be focused on to one or two brigades to get them to do something special. Not quite the same thing as command points I believe.

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