"Warlord Games: "Epic Battles, Regular Tables"" Topic

Looking good. Planning for after X-mas purchases.

What are the stand sizes, and what are planned future releases?

Add: Why did you pick such an odd-ball figure size?

Ditto, to everything 79th just asked!

"Easy to assemble" plastic, in 13.5mm scale?
What's to assemble? I don't do multi part in 28mm, let alone this scale.

I suspect that they want people to buy only from them, so no nod to compatibility.

Well since it is in plastic and an odd scale it is a no go for me so they are saving me money.

I suspect you just glue strips to bases, and maybe wheels to gun barrels?

But yeah, what an odd scale.

And will you be able to add individual units or is it boxed set or nothing? I'm also guessing it's 12 generic cannon?

That's a lot of 15mm miniatures to paint!

Are these miniatures made in hard plastic or with the new Warlord games resin?

What are the stand sizes, and what are planned future releases?

The stands appear to be 60mm wide.

There seem to be Zouaves and skirmishers as well as wagons.

Similar unique scaling issues have stayed my hand from getting Travel Battle.

I wish they release another one for Hail Caesar. Maybe Romans vs Barbarians.

With 2400 miniatures in the box, they don't really need to be compatible with anything.

Seems like a great size for mass ACW battles. I've got about that many 15mm ACW, and don't begrudge them the size. I wish I could shrink my 15mm's for more space these days.

I wonder about releases…. speciality bees? Cavalry? Just painting red pants/kepis don't make them zouves and additional information would be most helpful. If there are future plans for support this might be a good deal but….the questions need to be addressed.

I must confess that I am looking forward to having a crack at these guys. I must have painted about a thousand Perry ACW this last year for a friend on the European mainland – and they are nice and surprisingly easy to paint but I wouldnt have the table for that scale. Plus I havn't played a game in twenty years and earlier than that Johnny Red were the rules of choice at the time. I would be inclined to solo a few games with this scale. Hope its a success – Malburian and other lace wars would look good at that scale not to mention Napoleonics.

lucius dont shrink your miniatures shrink your units give a smaller frontage gives a bigger battlefield

I must be missing the one spot that tells what the scale of the figures are. What are they? Also, in one place they say that you get 12 rgts. per side & in another place they say that you get 15 rgts. per side. Confusing advertising IMO.

The full set is for 30 Regiments (15 per side) with all the extras.

Just the figures is for 24 Regiments (12 per side).

There is also brigade sets which is for 3 Regiments for one side or the other.

The sprue with the magazine is for 1 Regiment (5 bases), random side.

And the figure scale is 13.5mm?

Yep.

Thinking this over, I don't get the "epic" part, unless epic just means lots of figures as opposed to a large engagement. A regimental frontage is going to be almost 12 inches, which is bigger than the unit frontage for the 25mm games that I have played in. That said, and if you were so inclined, the basing could work with lot of rules such as On to Richmond, DBN, Volley and Bayonet, etc., etc.

Regiments of 100? 30cm long? So ground scale is 1m for 3 or 4m? Madness.. to save space from "regular" 28mm figs?
No spare commands to have options for another way of gaming (that is actually the main one😁)…
I understand that they are more or less compatible with the well done Kallistra who can sell more variants and command sets.
Can one divide this line of 10 in smaller segments without trouble?
Why 13.5mm? A case of "my stuff will kill all the others, so good they will buy it and throw away theirs…"
Hubris, and intentional that you could not mix. Fortunatelly they just checked the writing (12mm) but not the real size with Kallistra😇😉.
Still dubious, but then combined it would make great stuff. Acw interests also goes into the various gun types, zouaves…will they be there?

13.5mm is indeed a strange scale choice. History is filled with the failures of wargaming companies who produced miniatures of an odd scale that was not accepted by the consumers. I'd like to hear their reasoning for choosing this particular scale.
They also lost a lot of potential customers going with the strange 1/1800 scale for their VAS ships and their choice of the "hydroplane bases".
It just doesn't make good commercial sense to me.

As I mentioned in the original discussion thread, I think they are more concerned about selling entire armies to new gamers (or older gamers who want to try new things/buy new armies), than they are concerned about selling the odd pack or two to the gamer who has a well established collection.

79th PA
If they made then compatible with what we have they would still sell exactly the same amount of sets.

It's not the scale it's the cost and overall package that is the attraction, AND they'd also sell a shed load to established gamers too.

When you offer 2400+ nicely detailed figures for just £90.00 GBP- you have no competition in the marketplace.

All this does is further fracture the available pool of players by adding yet another scale and base size that won't match what other players have, and that's the last thing we need as a hobby.

If your goal is to have big battles on a normal sized wargaming table, you don't get there by having regiments (the basic tactical units) that are 12" wide.

@ tin hat, I get what you are saying, but there is not a commonly accepted definition of what "the hobby" is. There is what you and I probably consider the hobby to be, there is the GW hobby, the Warlord hobby, and probably others. Warlord has already demonstrated that they are not afraid to go their own way, and they have a legion of devoted fans. I'm not trying to be difficult, but I think Warlord knows their business model.

They are not concerned that you (or anyone else)can't get a pick up game with your chosen scale, whatever that might be.

Are these the "Gordon and Hague" range of figures from several years back?

Russ Dunaway

I don't think they look anything like the G&H stuff.

It's an interesting idea, but why, oh why can't they do some research on the manual of arms of the time? They have figures that are almost, but not quite at 'Shoulder Arms' and some that are almost, but not quite at "Right Shoulder Shift Arms' and some that are at almost, but not quite 'Support Arms', all mixed together on the same strip. Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. In a close order formation like that everyone would be at the same arms position. Mixing it up like that just would not work. Take it from an old reenactor :)

I noticed that, but I've rarely seen ACW gamers who use individual metal figures worry about it either.

I have two Corps of 15mm ACW based for Johnny Reb… Love playing Black powder in all historical eras and have GM'd BP/ACW games at a few HMGS cons… nobody seem particularly interested in the BP ACW games while other rules like Regt F&F were packed? I hope the game system is a hit…but Ill play with my 15mm figs :)

I can see the soldiers shifting their rifles from one shoulder to the other randomly on marches, and I can see the officers cutting them some slack about it.

On marches, sure. The command would be: "Route Step", and the soldiers need not stay in step and can carry their arms 'at will'. But in a line of battle they all need to be the same. Otherwise they would literally be banging their guns into each other.

Regardless of this being put out by another company and all the complaints as to scale and bases I find this a wonderful concept. Once painted in mass and on the table they will look brilliant!!
I'm green with jealousy!!

Russ Dunaway

Well I've got a few in my hands now to see what they are like up close.

First thing that strikes me is, on the sprue you have two different infantry 'blocks' and the command block, which is essentially three sculpts.
Then we have the mounted commander who is another sculpt and the artillery piece in three parts.

Cunning way the gun is moulded so you can swap the main barrel part and still keep the guys either side of it to accommodate future types of cannon.

So Warlord have created an entire game and range of figures with just 7 unique sculpts, three of which are the gun !

I think this is a superb product idea. OG 10mm figures are like this and I love the strip concept for theses larger sculpts. Being bigger they really make quite a nice impact. They look easy to paint too. Grand manner gaming!!!!

i might cut down the bases so less space between companies.

I got a sprue with the WG illustrated issue. Not bad looking figs.