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axabrax02 Dec 2016 8:54 a.m. PST

Not seeing these on the Recreational Conflict site. Am I missing something?

GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2016 9:38 a.m. PST

Listed under "Colonial", then "East of Java".

Richard Brooks Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Dec 2016 12:53 p.m. PST

We just got them in and should be on the website by Sunday.
There are three packs one of Officers and NCOs and two packs of troops.

Personal logo chicklewis Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2016 4:21 p.m. PST

Incredibly dumb to have no photos on the Tiger Miniatures website. I was ready to purchase.

axabrax02 Dec 2016 4:32 p.m. PST

Probably better next time to save the ad for when the merchandise is actually available and photos are posted. I was ready to purchase, and now I might be able to talk myself out of it ;-)

Chick: oddly enough Recreational Conflict has better photos than Tiger and all the East India stuff, except for that mentioned in this ad, is viewable there.

Personal logo chicklewis Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2016 7:11 p.m. PST

Thanks, Axabrax.

I REALLY hope these do not suffer from the Tiger Signature "6 foot long rifles" disease.

Personal logo chicklewis Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2016 7:28 p.m. PST

Thanks, Axabrax.

oopsdoubleone Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Dec 2016 3:53 a.m. PST

Sorry we are getting the web site updated ASAP.

regarding weapons. some Dutch infantry are armed with Carbines and others sets have rifle.
they come in sets of 5 [different poses]

Sets are on the way to Recreational Conflict in the USA but we have rely on the postal services.

I'll bring a few to Wargamer in Halesowen UK Sunday for those able to attend.

axabrax03 Dec 2016 8:14 a.m. PST

Anyone have any background on this conflict? I'd be interested in learning more but all I can find regards the US rather than the Dutch.

oopsdoubleone Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Dec 2016 9:09 a.m. PST

The Aceh War, also known as the Dutch War or the Infidel War (1873–1904), but insurgencies continued as late as 1914.
look under aceh war, or lombok uprisings, KNIL etc

Personal logo chicklewis Supporting Member of TMP03 Dec 2016 10:20 a.m. PST

Greg Blake, Australian historian and miniature enthusiast, has done a LOT of research on thees wars. Help me encourage him to write up the results.

axabrax03 Dec 2016 10:25 p.m. PST

Pony up Greg! You're hoarding all that great info, ;-)

Richard Brooks Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Dec 2016 2:03 p.m. PST

A good place to start is C.M. Sculten: Tactics of the Dutch Colonial Army in the Netherlands East. in the Revue internationale d'historie militaire volume 70 1988 pages 59 to 67. I got this through interlibrary loan from Florida State University in '05. Well worth the effort.
Photos for the Dutch are here recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/moro.html

axabrax06 Dec 2016 10:31 a.m. PST

@Richard

Thanks much for the info! The pictures look good. I still wish there was more documentation, however. For instance, I presume the Filipino rebels with their more modern firearms are for a different locale/conflict than the other more primitively armed figures who are presumably Acehnese? Painting references are also an issue here. For instance, I wouldn't have any idea how to paint the Demon headed warriors although they seem like cool figures. In general, this is not a terribly "user-friendly" range, and my initial investigations on the Web indicate that there really isn't that much out there, so it would be great if you guys could fill in some of the gaps for your customers. There must have been some references used for sculpting the figures? Any chance you could share some of them?

Richard Brooks Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Dec 2016 12:56 p.m. PST

The Filipinos are for the aftermath of the Spanish-American War along with the Moros. The code for the Dutch and Acehnese is EJ.
Checkout youtube.com/watch?v=1WFPITMkIiQ Aceh war with loads of original photos and audio.
As to references send me an email (any of you that are interested) and I will send you a list (provided I can find it again) richard@recreationalconflict.com

oopsdoubleone Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Dec 2016 3:44 p.m. PST

type in
KNIL or try these

link

link

link

axabrax06 Dec 2016 8:41 p.m. PST

Thanks for the links gents. I did do a search previously under KNIL and Aceh War and came across that video but not the other links. Ordered all of the East of Java packs and may pick up more depending on how successful I am at painting them. Always fun to learn about a new period!

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