Phillip Forge | 01 Nov 2006 12:10 p.m. PST |
GW to close their forums 15 Nov 06. Interesting news! Comments? |
Tangofan | 01 Nov 2006 12:14 p.m. PST |
For a company that doesn't believe in listening to their customers, I'm not surprised. |
Connard Sage | 01 Nov 2006 12:14 p.m. PST |
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Goldwyrm | 01 Nov 2006 12:21 p.m. PST |
I don't recall ever visiting their forum unless deep linked from somewhere else. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 01 Nov 2006 12:24 p.m. PST |
where did you hear? link? |
Stoelzels Structures | 01 Nov 2006 12:28 p.m. PST |
I thought this was an error, but it says it on the message board page from GW. Don't know what they are thinking. |
Lord Billington Wadsworth | 01 Nov 2006 12:28 p.m. PST |
The forums were a mess, anyways. |
Stoelzels Structures | 01 Nov 2006 12:28 p.m. PST |
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Spooner6 | 01 Nov 2006 12:29 p.m. PST |
link It is right on the front page to thier forums. I agree with Tangofan. Chris |
Stoelzels Structures | 01 Nov 2006 12:30 p.m. PST |
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Rudysnelson | 01 Nov 2006 12:39 p.m. PST |
Never visited them, so no impact. |
Regards | 01 Nov 2006 12:40 p.m. PST |
If you go to the boards now, it is complete chaos. No moderators at all and everyone is posting and slamming the place. I believe it won't last until November 15th the way the populace is acting. I used to visit to read stuff periodically. Got some helpful suggestions over the years. I hate to see something that could be a resource end and the way it is degenerating in the last few hours is pathetic. They need to close it down now so this isn't a 2 week period of trash. How sad. Erik |
SpaceCowboy | 01 Nov 2006 12:52 p.m. PST |
Looks like the place has been tainted by chaos. Trash for the trash god. See you in space cowboy. |
javelin98 | 01 Nov 2006 12:54 p.m. PST |
You have to wonder why the GW leadership feels the need to close their own forums (fora?). Granted, theirs was one of the worst on the Intarweb, with poor design and functionality, but it just seems odd that such a useful PR and marketing tool would be yanked. Putting on Mr. Conspiracy Hat™, I can come up with some possible rationales: 1) Bad times at GW means that the £20,000 or whatever they pay a person to administrate and moderate the forum was just too much. Personnel costs are often high on the CFO's list of things to cut in order to right a listing corporate ship. 2) A newer, better version of the forums is in the works and will be announced soon. Since pretty much anything would be an improvement over what they've got, this might be the case, but if so, why not wait until the new forum was operational before putting the hammer down on the current one? 3) The Right Honorable Thomas H.F. Kirby and associates are sensitive to criticism and wanted to close this possible avenue of it. Of course, any post critical of GW was nuked in seconds anyway, so I'm not sure why the forum itself would be closed down. 4) GW lost the source code to the forums in their last office move, so older "collector's" threads cannot be recast and re-released for the public. Wait
So. What could be bubbling below the surface here? Do we have any Nottinghammers in the house who could give us some inside info? |
nycjadie | 01 Nov 2006 12:58 p.m. PST |
Could it be the age of the posters? I think TMP is a pretty mature audience. And I use mature in the actual "age" sense of the word. |
Skeptic | 01 Nov 2006 1:02 p.m. PST |
Typical GW – the expected useful life of any of their products or services seems to be rather limited. At least, they didn't insult readers' intelligence with some flimsy excuse about why they were closing them down, although the lack of an explanation is nevertheless rather arrogant. Businesses with at least some notion of good customer relations tend to at least try to explain major changes
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nvdoyle | 01 Nov 2006 1:05 p.m. PST |
There are several decent 40K forums out there, I haven't visited the GW ones in years. |
Farstar | 01 Nov 2006 1:23 p.m. PST |
It's the Specialist side that worries me. A unified front against the mishandling Epic and BFG are getting at the hands of ForgeWorld was *already* difficult. Now it will be impossible. |
Meiczyslaw | 01 Nov 2006 1:24 p.m. PST |
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] the lack of an explanation [
] If we're talking about the US site, I agree. If you look at the UK site, it appears that they're saying, "There are better forums out there, so we're not going to spend the money on ours any more." Or I could be reading too much between the lines. |
Bombot | 01 Nov 2006 1:27 p.m. PST |
Apparently the SG ones are to remain open. link |
Farstar | 01 Nov 2006 1:30 p.m. PST |
Well that's a *little* good news, then. |
The Gonk | 01 Nov 2006 1:31 p.m. PST |
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nvdoyle | 01 Nov 2006 1:41 p.m. PST |
Best answer yet on the GW forums (sadly, not by a mod): "There's a tax on poor English coming, and they can't afford the posters here." |
syr8766 | 01 Nov 2006 2:00 p.m. PST |
There's a reason we called them the "Eye of Terror" over at Dakka Dakka. |
teboj17 | 01 Nov 2006 2:49 p.m. PST |
I bet they will start a new forum that you will have to pay for and will basically be all adds for their products. You will also have to submit a post to be approved and edited before it shows up on the forums. Also every few months a new updated version of the forum will come up and you will have to pay for the upgrade and will not be able to use the old messages on the forumns. I do feel like the specialist games will be forced to close also after some people go over that forum and start bashing GW. |
Skeptic | 01 Nov 2006 2:54 p.m. PST |
Anyway, it is no great loss. I wrote my last post on those forums a year or more ago, when I wrote a suggestion in the form of a question on the suggestion forum. The mod., apparently using his English-as-an-Nth language, immediately locked the thread because he claimed that it was a question, hence was on the wrong sub-forum
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Alxbates | 01 Nov 2006 2:58 p.m. PST |
Wow. Yet another example of their contempt for their customers. Is a new, better forum coming? I would think it's likely, but if so, why not announce it, not just say "we're closing the forums"
Geez
Then again, Javelin's other reasons seem possible, too
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14th Brooklyn | 01 Nov 2006 3:37 p.m. PST |
Well it saves them the time to lock those topics and posters they do not agree with. My persoal feeling
I could not care less. Although I would have been happy if the words "their forum" had been missing from the title! Cheers, Burkhard |
GildasFacit | 01 Nov 2006 4:07 p.m. PST |
GW anything – who gives a . |
Javier Barriopedro aka DokZ | 01 Nov 2006 4:49 p.m. PST |
Stuff them, really
As if there was anything worthwhile in there or in the overall attitude by the top brass. Let them kill their PR, "home away from home", "a place where like-minded individuals share and expand their views on the hobby" and all that b.s., for it's all bottom-line thinking here: T.B.1: "The fora don't work as the propaganda machinery we expected them to be, and they have a cost for maintennace
" T.B.2: "Stuff'em! Close the damned things and save the company some money." I could not care less, frankly. |
javelin98 | 02 Nov 2006 7:26 a.m. PST |
T.B.2 would have to be in the Cobra Commander or Skeletor's voice, though, and would have to include "
you fools!" at the end. Then it would be just perfect. |
MetalMutt | 02 Nov 2006 8:26 a.m. PST |
More trouble than it was worth I expect. Show me the money! |
syr8766 | 02 Nov 2006 2:18 p.m. PST |
Javelin 98 said: "T.B.2 would have to be in the Cobra Commander or Skeletor's voice, though, and would have to include "
you fools!" at the end. Then it would be just perfect." T.B.2: "You foolsss! Clossse the cursed things and ssssave the company sssome money! Cobra!" |
noraneko | 02 Nov 2006 11:10 p.m. PST |
Good ridence is all I have to say. |
tyrruss | 03 Nov 2006 4:03 a.m. PST |
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BugStomper | 03 Nov 2006 4:47 a.m. PST |
@teboj17 – I think you may be hitting the nail on the head. To be honest I didn't use their forums as I find there are better forums out there that don't contain lots of "ub3r l33t!!1!!1!!1!" posts and they're not rediculously moderated. I think GW felt that the forums would be a good idea initially for people to stroke off their egos and also for market research. They didn't get what they wanted so now they're closing them down. I almost feel dirty because I'm buying some Chaos Black spray from my local GW on the way home from work. To be fair it's to undercoat my EM4 minis! :) |
Akker the Flak | 06 Nov 2006 9:45 a.m. PST |
They appear to be cutting back all round. My local independant retailer said a goodly wedge of their trade sales staff (in the UK) went last year. If you ran a small club in your store you used to be able to blag a few free minis off them for it but now it`s next to impossible. |