| nvdoyle | 20 Sep 2006 2:30 a.m. PST |
I dunno about LOTR, but when I see that first table… "Sir, is this gonna be a stand-up fight, or another bug hunt?" "We believe a xenomorph is involved…" |
| nvdoyle | 20 Sep 2006 2:31 a.m. PST |
Okay, something wierd is up with the time. The clock above the 'add a comment' box says 6:30 am PST…but I'm seeing posts of around 9:00 am PST. |
| Cacique Caribe | 20 Sep 2006 5:03 a.m. PST |
As a long-term project, I am thinking of having Shelob's lair and the fortress of Cirith Ungol together. It should be easy to get ideas for Shelob's lair from this:
link For Cirith Ungol (like in the LOTR movie), this is all I have to go by:
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link Any ideas? Has anyone done one like theone in the movie? CC |
 Parzival  | 20 Sep 2006 5:15 a.m. PST |
The GW Cirith Ungol looks kind of boring. I'd make the space much narrower, with stair cases and multiple levels. We wants orcses and nasty uruk-haises to be plummetting down from the heightses, we does, yesss, Precious, gollum, gollum. |
| Parzival | 20 Sep 2006 5:16 a.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 20 Sep 2006 6:02 a.m. PST |
NVDoyle, Weird. I think this IS going to be a bug hunt for Bill! CC |
| DalyDR | 20 Sep 2006 6:50 a.m. PST |
If it helps, I think there is a diagram of the tower of Cirith Ungol in "The Atlas of Middle Earth" by Karen Wynn Fonstad, which seems to be about as good as it gets for books of this type. Dave |
| Alxbates | 20 Sep 2006 7:27 a.m. PST |
Wow… odd bugs here. Lovely tables, though. |
| GoodBye | 20 Sep 2006 7:36 a.m. PST |
Although Tolkien doesn't say it is implied that the pass of Cirith Ungel does run thru the lair of Shelob and clearly the lair is on the west side of the tower. It seems as though there may be some quick routes and some longer routes thru the lair; however, all routes pass thru the lair. The Atlas as suggested by DalyDR is a must have for the serious Tolkien gamer. Shelob I would think should be placed centrally in the tunnels at her nest with many trip/feeler strands run thru the lair, and the fat bloated spider waiting for agitation of the trips before moving. I would think a roll to activate Shelob modified positively by the number of figures in the party trying to get thru the lair-the more figures the harder to pass unnoticed. |
| Cacique Caribe | 20 Sep 2006 10:51 a.m. PST |
DalyDR, Is this the diagram?
picture This is really interesting for gaming the various factions:
link CC |
| GoodBye | 20 Sep 2006 11:39 a.m. PST |
CC Yes that's the picture from the atlas. |
| thosmoss | 20 Sep 2006 12:23 p.m. PST |
The "Behind the Scenes" stuff on the RotK disc talked about their design for Cirith Ungol. There's a rock-dropper built into it, scarecly noticeable in the film but lovingly detailed by the whackos who would rather make movie sets than go out and breathe fresh air. Rock Dropper. Invading Sam thinking his new sword and green cloak are all the protection he needs. A bitter Gollum trying to get the drop. The potential for special rules abound! |
| jimbibbly | 21 Sep 2006 3:57 a.m. PST |
After reading the book I think the Tower in the film is more accurate than the atlas illustration with the different floors rotated through 45 degrees (however the last time I read it was 6 years ago). @ thosmoss, I would love to have been one of those whackos (breathing from a O2 tank might be a problem ;) |
| Cacique Caribe | 26 Aug 2007 6:38 p.m. PST |
I guess this is the model used for the film: picture This is the one that someone made for a GW tournament: picture CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 13 Sep 2007 11:04 p.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 14 Sep 2007 6:20 a.m. PST |
Finished product: link How they made it: link I am in complete awe. One of these years, I hope to be able to make something like it. CC |
| qar qarth | 26 Sep 2007 10:15 a.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 26 Sep 2007 10:30 a.m. PST |
I don't know what happened to the Tolkien Atlas diagram link, but here's another one: picture
link CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 15 Jul 2008 2:26 p.m. PST |
Imagine this scenario . . . link . . . on this scenery: link
link CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 12 May 2009 5:25 p.m. PST |
Seems they are using this site now: link CC |
makes an addition to his Flash Gordon collection.