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steve179721 Aug 2006 2:00 p.m. PST

Hello, sorry, me again…

This might seem to you as a daft question but did ALL 'musicians' wear tunics of the facing colour during the Waterloo campaign or were there any acceptions – I want to know cos I'm doing the 5th British Division so would like specific info on the 1st, 28th, 32nd, 42nd, 44th, 79th & 92nd regiments if that's not too much to ask…

Cheers in anticipation,

Steve P.

cyjayne21 Aug 2006 2:11 p.m. PST

There were exceptions. e.g. Drummers of units with red or black facing wore white faced red.

Cy

zipperdyrms21 Aug 2006 2:27 p.m. PST

Up until 1812 drummers wore reversed colours with exception of red and black faced units as stated above, but I believe there is evidence that some regiments still wore reversed colours at Waterloo.

Another POI is that the 28th wore stove pipe (Peninsular) style shakos at Waterloo and not the newer Belgic shako.

AndyBrace21 Aug 2006 11:38 p.m. PST

Also Royal regiments (dark blue facings) wore red uniforms with yellow lace.

Broglie21 Aug 2006 11:50 p.m. PST

Zipperdyrms

What did the drummers wear after 1812?.
Were they standarised?
Was there a standard colour for the drums??

Regards

brushmonkey22 Aug 2006 12:49 a.m. PST

I am sure there would be an agreed standard for colouring and decorating the units drums. I havent read anywhere of any specific standards in all of my travels in the books I own but as in all things I can stand corrected yet again.

One that always has me befuddledis the embroidery around the trumpet cavalry regiments.

What scale are you painting?

Colin

steve179722 Aug 2006 8:43 a.m. PST

Colin,

I'm slowly doing the Allied troops that were at Quatre Bras in 28mm using Front Rank for Dutch/Belgians – Wargames Foundry for Brits and Perry Miniatures for the Brunswickers… It will probably take me until next Christmas but I will do it, I will, I WILL!!!
(thankfully there wasn't a great deal of cavalry there so not too many frilly bits on those trumpeters eh…)

So anyway, back to the original question – PLEASE can someone tell me the colours for the tunics the drummers wore in 1815 – specifically the units mentioned in the original post above…

Cheers,

Steve P.

zipperdyrms22 Aug 2006 11:05 a.m. PST

Steve 1797

Drummers tunics should be red by default after 1812, unless you can find a source to the contrary. Remember that there would have been some time from a Horse Guards edict being passed to when it was effected.

1st Red faced blue – as it was a Royal regt it would have been unaffected by the 1812 change
28th Yellow faced red – may still be yellow in 1815
32nd White faced red – may still be yellow in 1815
42nd Red faced blue – as it was a Royal regt it would have been unaffected by the 1812 change
44th Buff faced red – may still be yellow in 1815
79th Blue-green/dark green faced red – may still be blue-green/dark green in 1815
92nd Yellow faced red – may still be yellow in 1815

Brogile

The drums were wood with the fronts painted in the facing colour, over painted was the Royal cypher or a regimental badge. Alternate red and white stripes for the top and bottom hoops, and white roping. This again was open for interpretation; there is a Foot Guards drum at the National Army Museum with solid red hoops

Fifers and buglers of light companies would be similar.

Best I can do chaps. I do hope it helps.

steve179722 Aug 2006 11:42 a.m. PST

Thanks Zipper…

I kind of like the idea of reversed colours – particularly for the traditionalists of the 28th (yes alright I will paint the Sphynx on the back of the shako… if I must…) and I don't think too many people will object; will they ?!?
I think I'll put it to the vote…

drummerpnwars06 Mar 2007 2:53 a.m. PST

andy where did you get this info? Also Royal regiments (dark blue facings) wore red uniforms with YELLOW LACE.

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