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walktapus05 Jul 2006 3:29 a.m. PST

Who makes these ? Or what other suitable figures could I use ?

Travellera05 Jul 2006 4:01 a.m. PST

I want them too! Any help out there?

adster05 Jul 2006 5:18 a.m. PST

Afghans are probably going to be the closest thing out there. Foundry produce a nice large range (they call them "Hill Tribesmen" in their India range.) Irregular Miniatures produce a very cheap range (close to true 25's.)

MauserP05 Jul 2006 5:39 a.m. PST

I think they were one of the groups Mark Copplestone will cover in his Back of Beyond Range – no releases yet. As the Basmachi could be from a number of Central Asian ethnic groups there would be a great variation in clothing style Check out White Sun of the Desert a Russian film about a Soviet hero battling Basmachi bandits(region 1 DVD).

Mark Plant05 Jul 2006 5:42 a.m. PST

Assuming you want Basmachis proper, then any Afghans in kaftan on a horse and with a rifle dating from 1850 to 1920 will do. Hats being either white turbans, skull caps or fur rimmed close fitting ones, depending on tribe. That is your one and only troop type, so it shouldn't be too hard.

If you need pictures, then I can send you quite a few.

Assuming you want "Basmachis" according to the Chris Peers BOB list, then you are stuff out of luck. Since most of his troop types are fictional there is a distinct lack of figures for them (odd that!).

Mark Plant05 Jul 2006 5:48 a.m. PST

What MauserP says is correct: there is quite some variation in dress. But any one band will dress solely in one traditional style, being from one tribe. So you don't have to find a huge range.

Prof Pate05 Jul 2006 11:18 a.m. PST

Mark

I'm intregued, could you send me contact details, ta

John FoA

'contactus@forceofarms.co.uk'

walktapus05 Jul 2006 2:10 p.m. PST

Well then, let's ask another question : who makes some "Afghans in kaftan on a horse and with a rifle dating from 1850 to 1920" ? grin

Carlos Marighela05 Jul 2006 10:20 p.m. PST

I converted some in 28mm. I used as the basis a mix of Eureka mounted Turks (Sipahis) and Foundry and Westwind Cossacks. Suitable heads came from old Foundry Afghans in Turkmen hats, scull capped and turbaned heads from Eureka Arab Bazaar figures. To this I have added various odds and sods from NWF ranges, Baluchis etc. If you want something out of the box, so to speak the nearest might be the Foundry or OG Afghan/ Pathan cavalry.

walktapus06 Jul 2006 4:09 a.m. PST

The Foundry Afghans are called Hills tribesmen on their site, am I right ?

And what about a Enver Pasha figure ? I guess a WWA Turkish officer would be right. Where could I find one ?

Mark Plant06 Jul 2006 5:53 a.m. PST

I can't imagine Enver was still in Turkish uniform, unless he somehow managed to get one smuggled in after he went over to the Basmachis. And why would he have done that?

Tim in Saskatoon10 Sep 2006 7:48 p.m. PST

Mark – "I can't imagine Enver was still in Turkish uniform, unless he somehow managed to get one smuggled in after he went over to the Basmachis. And why would he have done that?"

Because he was vain?

According to Peter Hopkirk's book Setting the East Ablaze Enver wore his Turkish uniform when he was a guest of the Comintern in Moscow (along with a girdle!). He wore it when he struck out from Bokhara on 9 November, 1921, to hook up with Basmachis. And he was wearing it when he was killed on 4 August, 1922, when he lead a charge of cavalrymen against a Red Army machine-gun detachment….

walktapus – "And what about a Enver Pasha figure ? I guess a WWA Turkish officer would be right.Where could I find one ?"

I have a figure from Battle Honours Turkish Battalion Command pack that looks pretty darn close.

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