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gungadin Inactive Member04 Jul 2006 12:41 p.m. PST

An unashamed plug for a young and promising sculptor – check out his Ottoman Turks and Moghuls. The standard varies a bit but these fit in very nicely with another of my favourite ranges – TLWR (and although seperated by a large amount of water both companies share the distinction of being really charming and nice people!).
For Bearsden I love his armoured and caparisoned horses – there is real movement there. His eqipment groups are rather nice as well. Some of the basic foot may not be up to the standard of the horse, but well worth checking out. A sculptor to keep your eye out for.

Don't ask for the link 'cos I don't know how
- but you'll find them through a search engine!

Coconuts04 Jul 2006 12:54 p.m. PST

I was wondering if anyone could point me to any sources that have information on the uniforms and appearence of both the Portuguese colonial troops and their enemies in the above two periods.
I am trying to find out what the various Portuguese troops that went to fight the Bonga on the Zambezie in the 1860s and 70s wore, particularly the Goan Cacadores and the Metropolitan inf. battalion that was sent.
Also, uniforms in Timor around the time of the last big revolt (around 1911-12).
Can anyone assist me? I am desperate to field Timorese headhunters.

Black Hat Miniatures04 Jul 2006 1:12 p.m. PST

and the bug strikes…

Gungadin, I assume you mean these:

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Just copy the Url and past it into your message to create a link.

Odd photos though, they look like they've been resixed in one direction but not the other…

Mike

Black Hat Miniatures04 Jul 2006 1:12 p.m. PST

resixed = resized…

*sigh*

Mike

ataulfo04 Jul 2006 1:35 p.m. PST

Coconuts: In the Foundry Book "Small Wars and Skirmishes 1902-18" you can find 2 articles about Portuguese East and West Africa. They do mention the New uniform introduced by 1900 in Africa and East Timor. Khaki or a yellowish Khaki. The illustrations are very similar to some of the Osprey "East Africa" ones. I can't tell you about the Goan Caçadores but I saw a photo of them in a book that I can't find right now… sorry.

kingscarbine04 Jul 2006 4:05 p.m. PST

This links are useful for a later period (if you can read Portuguese):
link
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viriatus.com/U1900_1.asp
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The 1860-70's infantry uniform consisted of a French type blue kepi (with or without white cover), dark-blue coat and dark grey, grey or white trousers. Black webbing and ankle boots. Very similar to Foundry's OW17/6 Mexican Regular Infantry (without the scruffy look). There was also a "Zouave" unit raised in Mozambique but I have no info regarding this or the Goan Caçadores. At this time the African Caçadores wore a brown coat so I suspect the Indian units used the same uniform or very similar.

I'll post some pics here: kingscarbine.blogspot.com

Cheers,

KC

Coconuts05 Jul 2006 10:57 a.m. PST

Obrigado pelas ligacoes!
sim, leio Portugues. Agora vou tentar escrever um pouco…
Li algo dos cacadores goaneses no livro de Rene Pelissier 'Les Campagnes Coloniales du Portugal' diz neste livro que o batalhao de cacadores de Goa era o 'elite' do exercito colonial de Portugal na epoca, infelizmente, segundo Pelissier, todos morreram de doenca na inutil campanha contra o bonga. Havia, se me lembro bem, companhias de cacadores de Macau em Mocambique na epoca tambem.
Ja viu o livro 'Portugal Militar 1850-1918'?, e um livro de fotografias de soldados portgueses, de 1850 a 1918, pensava em compra-lo, mas custa bastante caro, acha que vale os 50 Eu ou nao?
O seu sitio e muito interessante, sobretudo porque as guerras desta epoca sao bastante desconhecida em Inglaterra.
I've tried my best with my Portuguese, sorry for any mistakes!

kingscarbine07 Jul 2006 2:27 a.m. PST

O Português está excelente! Quanto ao livro "Portugal Militar" já o vi e não me pareceu merecer os €50.00 EUR Muitas fotos de oficiais, parada e exercícios e nada de fotos de campanhas. Fiquei desiludido pq esperava muito mais.

Cheers,

KC

marco56 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2018 7:02 p.m. PST

Would like some Portuguese colonial figures made.
Mark

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