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08 Jul 2006 10:53 a.m. PST
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Cacique Caribe09 Jun 2006 12:04 a.m. PST

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellucidar

Online Novels:
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Pellucidar's Geography:
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erbatlas.com/pellgeog.shtml
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Glossary
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Fauna and Races:
panthers.pnc.edu/sphill01
or
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QUESTION:
What 28mm figures would you recommend for the MAHARS (considering that they resembled Pterosaurs)?
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These sketches are interesting:
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Thanks.

CC

Cacique Caribe09 Jun 2006 1:03 a.m. PST

Almost forgot. "Back to the Stone Age" is also available as a FREE online book:

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CC

Roberto Cofresi09 Jun 2006 1:18 a.m. PST

CC, these are really all the <<Pellucidar>> novels available on line (from Australian sources):

At the Earth's Core – 1922
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Pellucidar – 1923
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Tanar of Pellucidar – 1930
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Tarzan at the Earth's Core – 1930
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Back to the Stone Age – 1937
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Land of Terror – 1944
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Cacique Caribe09 Jun 2006 1:22 a.m. PST

Geez, that's nearly all of the ones Burroughs wrote:

At the Earth's Core (1914)
Pellucidar (1915)
Tanar of Pellucidar (1929)
Tarzan at the Earth's Core (1929)
Back to the Stone Age (1937)
Land of Terror (1944)
Savage Pellucidar (1963)

These, however, are sequels by John Eric Holmes:
Mahars of Pellucidar (1976)
Red Axe of Pellucidar (1993)

CC

Cacique Caribe09 Jun 2006 1:32 a.m. PST

Those Aussies rock! Here is the last one of Burroughs' series, "Savage Pellucidar" online:

link

CC

Margites709 Jun 2006 4:45 a.m. PST

Read the first page or so of Savage P. How would you model that plane!!?

Mysterioso09 Jun 2006 4:54 a.m. PST

It seems to me that besides the need for Mahars (and there is a need), there is a need for Sagoths.

As these are ERB "gorilla men", it seems a natural for the Eureka line. Many of us loved their PotA stuff when they were able to produce it. I have some of their Boiler Suit Apes and think they are nicely done. The space suit group also looks pretty good. If Eureka did some gorilla men with leather-like armor with stone tool and sword arm options, it seems like they would sell. Stone tools would cover Sagoths and swords would cover scenarios like the Burton PotA remake which visually was pretty good.

chronoglide09 Jun 2006 5:29 a.m. PST

I was drawing from the Dinosaur Doug film for my Sagoths…was planning on using some suitable orcs rather than going down the 'gorilla' route.
Also, being a fan of Tarzan Vs Predator at the Earths Core the graphic novel I'll be pulling my Copplestone Predators in for duty aswell….

jpattern209 Jun 2006 7:50 a.m. PST

Margetes, the aeroplane as described wouldn't fly, but it *is* close in description to an ultralight – basically a hang glider with an engine. Just turn the engine from vertical to horizontal.

Bob Runnicles09 Jun 2006 1:26 p.m. PST

It's interesting to see some of those pictures and sketches and realise how accurate the Doug McClure/Peter Cushing movie was, at least as far as the Mahars go!

Space Monkey09 Jun 2006 1:55 p.m. PST

I've long dreamed of doing some Pellucidar gaming… especially if we can go into the land of the shadow… or explore that floating world…

I've never seen a miniature that would suit me as being like a Mahar though…

Cacique Caribe09 Jun 2006 2:20 p.m. PST

Didn't RAFM, Lance & Laser or someone come up with some pterosaur-looking figures? If so, I cannot find them now!

CC

Zephyr109 Jun 2006 2:48 p.m. PST

As far as gaming, you could always substitute winged monkeys for Mahars… ;)

Farstar09 Jun 2006 2:59 p.m. PST

and Eureka already makes winged monkeys…

Mysterioso09 Jun 2006 5:58 p.m. PST

Scheltrum Miniatures' Subterranean Tunnelling Machine

VSF03 on link

Seems like it would be spot on. Anyone own one and care to comment on how it looks when surrounded by figures?

Mysterioso09 Jun 2006 6:04 p.m. PST

CC:

I would suggest any post on Pellucidar (and other Lost World scenarios) be crossposted to VSF as well as Pulp. The pictures of the games they play always seem to boast at least one rubber dinosaur. I think they'd be into it and would be able to make contributions.

Peachy

Cacique Caribe09 Jun 2006 10:23 p.m. PST

Peachy,

I will inform Bill to cross-post there as well. In the future, if I forget to include them, make sure to let Bill know. I certainly do not want to exclude any potentially interested parties in the discussions. Thanks for pointing that out.

CC

Space Monkey10 Jun 2006 9:54 a.m. PST

I guess I just don't picture the Mahars as being anything like winged monkeys… winged monkeys are funny/whimsical… Mahars are scary/sinister…
I'm thinking something more like a humanoid-ish pteradactyl/pteranodon…

brain in a jar11 Jun 2006 7:49 a.m. PST

RAFM high martians would maybe work?

Warrenss212 Jun 2006 6:03 p.m. PST

@ Cacique Caribe (or anyone in the knowing…)-
I have all the following:

At the Earth's Core (1914)
Pellucidar (1915)
Tanar of Pellucidar (1929)
Tarzan at the Earth's Core (1929)
Back to the Stone Age (1937)
Land of Terror (1944)
Savage Pellucidar (1963)

John Eric Holmes:
Mahars of Pellucidar (1976)

But I never heard of Red Axe of Pellucidar (1993)!!!!
Anyone have any ideas on where I could get this book?!?!?!?

Thanks,
Warren

Mysterioso12 Jun 2006 7:24 p.m. PST

Good Luck with Red Axe. Apparently, the ERB estate did not want it to come out and thus the long delay in publishing. Amazon does not have even one copy listed!

maxxon13 Jun 2006 1:34 a.m. PST

Didn't ERB die in 1950?

Did Savage Pellucidar really sit in his drawer for 13 years before publication, or did someone else finish it from notes/fragments?

tnjrp13 Jun 2006 3:48 a.m. PST

FantasticFiction puts it in 1942:
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(earlier than Land of Terror, incidentally)

Cacique Caribe13 Jun 2006 8:51 a.m. PST

Cartoon representation of the Mahars:

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CC

Mysterioso13 Jun 2006 5:25 p.m. PST

There are some nicer representations of Mahars on this site:
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Cacique Caribe13 Jun 2006 5:40 p.m. PST

Peachy,

Of all of them, I think this is my favorite:
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And your link took me to this also:
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Fantastic. Thanks!!!

CC

brain in a jar15 Jun 2006 11:55 a.m. PST

I've planned out two different forces for Pellucidar gaming. One side with Mahars and Sagoths, and the other with David Innes and the Gilaks.

Mahars will be RAFM High Martians, with tails modeled on in green stuff. Beaks too, if I'm feeling particularly ambitious.

Sagoths will be Pulp Figures' Neanderthals, because that's the mental image I get of them — bulky, brutish creatures. I've heard speculation that stories of trolls, goblins and ogres stem from discoveries made in the dark ages of Neanderthal bones in caves.

Gilaks will be modeled as Cro-Magnons, using Bronze Age Miniatures' generics with loincloths and hair sculpted on. Jeff Valent studios sells sprues of prehistoric weapons. David Innes will be made the same way, though he'll have a rifle in his hand.

That'll probably be a project for next summer though.

Cacique Caribe15 Jun 2006 2:48 p.m. PST

Brain,

Make sure to post photos to inspire the rest of us!!!

CC

Cacique Caribe10 Apr 2007 5:10 a.m. PST

The search for scary-looking Mahars goes on:

TMP link

CC

Cacique Caribe10 Apr 2007 5:23 a.m. PST

I absolutely LOVE this illustration:

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CC

Daffy Doug10 Apr 2007 9:15 a.m. PST

CC, beat me to it :D

Cacique Caribe10 Apr 2007 10:31 a.m. PST

Merlin,

It was that exact cover that prompted me to read the Pellucidar series!

CC

Cacique Caribe11 Apr 2007 6:05 a.m. PST

Bestiary of Pellucidar:
link

Examining the light source at the center of the Earth:
erbzine.com/mag14/1486.html

"Survival of the Species in Pellucidar":
erbzine.com/mag14/1487.html

CC

Daffy Doug11 Apr 2007 8:24 a.m. PST

CC: It was that exact painting which made me notice and fall in love with Frazettic women….

Cacique Caribe11 Apr 2007 8:43 a.m. PST

Merlin,

Here are other fantastic Frazetta paintings used on the Pellucidar series. Enjoy!

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CC

Cacique Caribe11 Apr 2007 10:26 a.m. PST

Hey, I forgot to mention the Air-Ship used in Pellucidar (the O-220 dirigible, in "Tarzan at the Earth's Core")!

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link
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By the way, this list is just a reminder of the books in the series . . .

By ERB:
At the Earth's Core (1914)
Pellucidar (1915)
Tanar of Pellucidar (1929)
Tarzan at the Earth's Core (1929)
Back to the Stone Age (1937)
Land of Terror (1944)
Savage Pellucidar (1963)

These, however, are sequels by John Eric Holmes:
Mahars of Pellucidar (1976)
Red Axe of Pellucidar (1993)

Enjoy!

CC

Cacique Caribe12 Apr 2007 2:13 p.m. PST

And with an endless day in the center of the Earth, I guess Burroughs must have known about Circadian Rhythms:

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link

CC

Daffy Doug13 Apr 2007 8:57 a.m. PST

(Damned Bug)

CC, I have the first four volumes of Frazetta's work (I have heard it rumored that there were 12!?).

Although common in "his" world, I do not find the like of his women in mine. "Is there, in truth, no beauty?"….

Cacique Caribe13 Apr 2007 9:13 a.m. PST

Bug strikes again.

Merlin,

Check through these listings. You might find a few Frazetta volumes you don't already have.

fetchbook.info/frazetta.html

CC

Servo300023 Apr 2007 1:17 p.m. PST

Gutenberg even has "At the Earth's Core" in Esperanto, for the really hard "core" out there. Esperanto is equally comprehensible to Mahars, Sagoths, and Americans and should be more popular among wargamers; it is the Aggressor Language after all. Cf. FM 30-101-1. Shatner vivas! Cf. Incubus (1965).

Cacique Caribe23 Apr 2007 8:24 p.m. PST

LOL!!!

CC

Cacique Caribe10 Aug 2007 11:32 p.m. PST

One possible option for the reptilian "Horibs" from "Tarzan at the Earth's Core":

TMP link

CC

Cacique Caribe10 Jul 2008 2:57 p.m. PST

Possible suggestions for Sagoths:

TMP link

CC
link

Cacique Caribe17 Nov 2008 12:01 a.m. PST

Good close-up of the Frazetta portrait of the poor girl in the Mahar pool:

picture

CC

Cacique Caribe03 Dec 2008 4:08 a.m. PST

Lots more Frazetta here:

link

CC

Cacique Caribe02 Aug 2009 3:26 a.m. PST

I love this Frazetta illustration of Pellucidar:

picture

More:

erbzine.com/mars/ffcore.html

CC

Loren Wiseman02 Aug 2009 6:46 p.m. PST

>Mahars will be RAFM High Martians,

If anyone needs any of these, btw, please contact me . . . I have boatloads I'm willing to part with.

Loren Wiseman
lorenwiseman.com
irbw.com

Cacique Caribe21 Aug 2009 11:28 p.m. PST

Chance to provide input:

TMP link

CC

Cacique Caribe08 Nov 2009 8:20 p.m. PST

Check this out . . .

This Mosasaur would be perfect for Pellucidar:

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And wow. These are awesome!

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QUESTION

By the way, has anyone obtained a copy of "A Gilak's Guide To Pellucidar"?
lulu.com/content/951852

Dan
link

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