Warspite84 | 12 May 2006 6:52 a.m. PST |
Hello Everyone, I'm just getting into gaming with the 1/3000 scale after almost exclusively gaming with the 1/6000 range, and I am truly blown away by the sheer volume and selection that NAVWAR offers, and despite the bad rap that NAVWAR often receives in terms of the quality of their models, the models I've purchased so far, in particular WWII ships like HMS Exeter & HMS York, and pre-Dreadnought vessels like HMS Victoria, are of pretty high quality and I was most pleasantly surprised. I was wondering if their was a website or pic page of any sort that shows them either painted or unpainted from any era, as I try to give each era a fair shake ;) Any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated, Regards, Chris |
scrivs | 12 May 2006 7:25 a.m. PST |
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Warspite84 | 12 May 2006 8:59 a.m. PST |
Wow great job Scrivs very nicely done, and thank you. I know it's not WWII related but would you or anyone else know of any links to pics of vessels from the Pre-Dreadnought Era as well? Thanks Again! Regards, Chris |
maxxon | 12 May 2006 10:03 a.m. PST |
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Kaoschallenged | 12 May 2006 10:14 a.m. PST |
If you want to see some more pics of 1/3000th scale ships you might check out my Yahoo Group dedicated to wargaming in that scale. There are pics from Pre-Dreadnought to WWII there :). link |
Warspite84 | 12 May 2006 12:24 p.m. PST |
Thank you all! Very nice pictures, and give me a great idea on how I may paint mine. Is there an official NAVWAR website? Thanks! Regards, Chris |
oceanway | 12 May 2006 6:28 p.m. PST |
Hi Chris, Navwar is my #1 source for my wargaming since I game in 1 /300 and 1/3000.Their WW1 and WW2 ships really have no equal,both in quality and in depth of range(as you pointed out).OTOH,their website is very outdated. You might check out M.Y. Minis.Micks old Trafalgar line has some unique types and he has added several hybrid ships for France,Germany and the US. David |
Wargamer Blue | 12 May 2006 6:49 p.m. PST |
Chris. I did the same as you. Had the 1/6000 scale, got fed up and moved to 1/3000 WWII and modern. I use Navwar ships and I have never had a problem with any of them. They paint up well, their cheap, and the selection is massive. |
Warspite84 | 12 May 2006 9:44 p.m. PST |
Yeah I totally agree rat of tobruk my exclusive love affair with the 1/6000 scale ships has fizzled somewhat as their Pre-Dreadnought range is somewhat limited, not to mention I've obtained EVERY model I desire to over a period of 3 years, whereas NAVWAR is amazingly comprehensive in virtually ANY era including that one, and you can obtain (comparatively) obscure battleships like the Turkish Messudieh or Spanish Pelayo (two of my more recent purchases). But I'll always have a special place in my heart for the 1/6000, just because of the ease and quickness of setup, and just the high quality and beauty they bring to the wargaming experience (in addition to the fact that an entire navy can easily fit into your pocket, as I did when I was gaming the Russo-Japanese War and was able to carry around both fleets in my pants with ease:). Thank You All So Very Much For Your Responses! Cheers, Chris |
maxxon | 12 May 2006 10:51 p.m. PST |
NavWar is pretty extensive, but even it has serious holes in the 1860-90 range: You can get battleships, but the range is virtually devoid of small cruisers, sloops etc. Qualitywise, there are better producers out there, especially if you're willing to up the scale to 1/2400. But I sold off my CinC and got NavWar instead. While CinC were no doubt better models, NavWar is much more robust (and easier to assemble) for actual gaming use. |
Rich Sartore | 13 May 2006 3:21 a.m. PST |
Chris, Yes, the NAVWAR site is at navwar.freeserve.co.uk They have a photo gallery and a number of my pics of their pre-dreadnoughts are there. |
Doms Decals | 13 May 2006 9:24 a.m. PST |
The Navwar site is a bit of an oddity, as it isn't kept live / updated – I believe it was done as a one-off project by someone, so is officially "dead" even if it's still quite useful. For up to date listings and prices (and quicker mail order
.) I always check the Spirit Games website instead
. Dom. |
Warspite84 | 15 May 2006 3:34 p.m. PST |
Thank you all so very much for your help and assistance. I've only been a member now for about two weeks and you have made me feel right at home. Cheers, Chris |
Colin T | 17 May 2006 1:18 p.m. PST |
There are some pictures of my Navwar RJW ships on the WTJ Yahoo group. Needless to say I had bought almost all of the two fleets before I found WTJ! I have a soft spot for Navwar, but the quality varies from the nice to the shockingly bad
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Warspite84 | 19 May 2006 12:31 p.m. PST |
In NAVWAR's defence NAVWAR models have masts and the like, where as WTJ models generally do not. NAVWAR models do vary in quality from one model to the next. For example, after consulting my own collection (and this is only IMHO, I'm sure some will undoubtedly disagree with me here) the NAVWAR model of the USS Maine (ACR-1) is quite good, with considerable detail, complete with military masts, and the features seem to be of the right scale. On the other hand I have the Russian cruiser Rurik from 1895 (sunk in the Battle of Ulsan in 1904) and the proportions seem to be way off, as the hull is far too narrow and the funnels are far too small, both in height and width. I've seen the model of the WTJ-made Rurik and it is far superior to the NAVWAR model in both scale and detail (even the 1/6000 Rurik is superior in my opinion). So in conclusion I'd say that WTJ makes more detailed warships overall, but NAVWAR has a MUCH wider selection and some of their models truly shine. Cheers, Chris |