"Waterloo" Topic

The actor who says 'They are the nobelist cavalry in europe, and the worst lead'

I'm sure he's the same guy who was in bluchers army ( aftermath of ligny) 'I do not trust the English, however since you have ordered a retreat i have given the order'

Waterloo is one hell of a good film. First saw it on the big screen ( it was a school history lesson). Boy was i impressed!. A few day's later i went to my local model shop and bought several boxes of plastic airfix french&british, painted them up ( well actually, a blue splodge for the french and red for the british) :)

Those were the days…

As far as I can tell the actor who told Napoleon about the Scots Greys is not the same actor who played the Prussian General at Ligny.

Captain Gideon

Hmmmm Hollywood remake of Waterloo, the British would be played by Americans as they are the 'good guys' the French by British actors as they are the 'baddies' the Prussians would be ignored and Light Horse Harry Lee would save the day with a charge by confederate cavalry so the Americans could see they really won it.

And it would still be more accurate than many of hollywoods historical films…….

And of course all the British would be Irish or Scottish…

There's a few quite good screen captures of some scenes from the Waterloo movie on this site:

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I've just seen the movie in the UK dvd version. I'm nt an expert on Napoleon but I loved the movie, and Steiger's perfomrance. I'm contacting some russian friends to see if there's a longer dvd available there…

guys,

I have both the VHS and the DVD version.

The VHS version is 128 mins (C10840) Layout and Design 1994.

The DVD version is 129 mins (D10840) Layout and design 2001.

I own both versions and believe me there is NO difference between the two…..however ! If you look at the back covers of both versions it clearly shows still pictures of scenes NOT shown while running eith the VHS or DVD so in answer to these question about longer versions, the HAS to of been longer cuts and I would imagine some people still own earlier versions of the film.

When the Columbia Pictures re-released the film in its "differing Layouts" over the years many scenes were left out until finally all we have left is what we see today and mores the pitty if the original owners lost or destroyed the original version.

As for the term, "Middle Guard". yes the French dropped the term officially but the 2rd and 4th regiments were still known as Middle Guard and called such. I was clearly the 5 Btlns of the 3rd/4th Regiments that made the initial attack at 7:30pm they were escorted by other guard btlns that then stopped to the rear right flank of La Haie Sainte in support if needed.

There was 13 btlns of Old Guard

basically in this order :

First Wave : left to right
4C – 2/3C – 1/3C – 4G – 1/3G (C=Chasseurs – G=Grenadiers)

Second Wave : Left to right
2/3G (further back left) – 2/1C – 2/2C – 2/2G

Third Line : Back behind La Belle Alliance
2/1G – 1/1G

The rest of the Old guard were facing the Prussians in Plancenoit with the entire Young Guard.

Taken from, "The Waterloo Companion". by Mark Adkin. This book is the most detailed historical correct book yet put on the market for Waterloo by Aurum ISBN : 1-85410-764-X

Forodin

/sigh Correction 3rd and 4th Regiments were still refureed to as Middle Guard. not the 2nd.

Forodin

Ohhhhh, God!!! Whuddizzitmatturr?

I saw it when it came out and still have the original film programme full of interesting behind the scenes stuff..and I still look at Ugo Pericoli's (costume adviser) The Armies of Waterloo which has the sketches he did for the film. Play the cd a lot too, especially now I am painting Perry French Infantry!

Breaking News! Guys, I just found out how long the movie was from an article in New York Times dated in 1971 with the release of Waterloo in the states Cinema. It was written by a film critic on the release of Waterloo in 1971 Cinema.

Here is the link
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I immediately went to the bottom to see the running time of this Cinema release and was shocked at the running time. See for yourself.
It took some soul searching to find this too.