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03 Aug 2026 12:48 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "When German atoms physicists learned they had failed" to "When German atomic physicists learned they had failed"

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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2026 3:30 p.m. PST

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For quite some time I had thought that Heisenberg hadn't really tried all that hard. 🙄
I guess it all depends on what one has read about it.

Irony: "Oh, do you think they have microphones planted?"
"Oh, no. They're not the Gestapo."
I would have thought that the default answer would have been "Yes."

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2026 4:54 p.m. PST

Heisenberg was trusting and paranoid at the same time.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2026 7:29 p.m. PST

He was also uncertain.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2026 7:29 a.m. PST

Ah! But was it an uncertainty brought on by circumstances, of a principled uncertainty?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2026 8:32 a.m. PST

It is Schrodinger's Cat that gets my sympathy.Stuck in a box waiting to be killed, or released, as it is opened. I have so many boxes in the attic and always think there is a chance that one of the AFVs has self assembled over the years. But I dare not look………

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2026 9:39 a.m. PST

The uncertainty is inherently principled.

I am constantly stepping on plancks. I'm not sure if that's even relatively relevant.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2026 10:52 a.m. PST

You should always step on Planck's Constant. It's a revolting little object. (Bonus points if you get the reference.) But let's avoid relativity. I may share a few relatives with Arthur Jermyn.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2026 12:01 p.m. PST

Regarding Schrödinger's Cat.
What a Teutonic thought experiment.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2026 1:08 a.m. PST

I fear this discussion is becoming a Bohr.

Only Constant I know was Napoleon's valet. Other constants are all very well, but their calculated value keeps changing. By definition they can't, but the latest thinking seems to question even that. Well for fundamental physical constants anyway, but what did Paul Dirac know?

I am sure I have many a Standard Model or two in the attic. Boxed and unloved

clibinarium04 Aug 2026 7:01 a.m. PST

I do know something for certain- its not actually Mark Felton narrating that video.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2026 9:33 a.m. PST

Be fair to the Teutons, John. Haven't you ever had a cat who loved you so much he wouldn't let you read a book? You can get very conflicted.

Hmph. And Russians would have skipped the "thought" phase and gone straight to real cats. In France, all the real effort would go into designing a truly elegant two-part cage--which wouldn't work as advertised.

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