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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2026 7:14 p.m. PST

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For the life of me, I cannot understand why Rogers is the patron saint of American Rangers.
Oh well.
How would you game it?
I've been known for adapting The Sword and the Flame for FIW and AWI skirmish games. I use TSATF 20th anniversary edition.
Rate the Rangers as Egyptians, with carbines as muskets. NOBODY gets rifles. Call the Indians Pathans. Give half of each unit muskets, or carbines. Adjust factors as you wish.
"Uniforms?" Surely you jest. Stay away from AWI Rangers with their brass helmet. Please. Tams and berets. Hunting shirts, short jackets etc.

Let's ignore 🙄 Rogers' massacre. He claimed 200. The French, who had every reason to shame him claimed 30. They didn't realize that they were insulting him. 🙄
He must flee from one end of a Very Long™️ table to another.
Let the pursuing Indians use "hidden movement". Make up rules.

So. The game starts with (the movie! Northwest Passage) when he tries to flee.

Run away! Run away!
You decide if he succeeds in running away. What %?

WarWizard31 Jul 2026 9:14 a.m. PST

How timely. I am attempting to run a "Raid on St. Francis" wargame at HMGS Fall-In.
I have the Ranger companies painted up and the Abenkai.
I think I may be using "Muskets and Tomahawks" v1.0.
I am currently working on my version of the St. Francis village.
In my research I used the Osprey book "American Colonial Ranger". Also I viewed the Youtube series on this subject, from the "Dead Warrior Society".
YouTube link
There are several videos concerning Roger's Rangers and the Abenakis Indians. I thought the series was quite excellent.
Usually I refer to wikipedia when I am researching. But I deemed the wikipedia reference unreliable on this subject, for various reasons.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2026 6:35 a.m. PST

Wikipedia is no longer worthy of trust in anything relating to American history, and especially so when it comes to race relations. I note that wikipedia also insists on an almost complete massacre. ("Few survived.") Are we supposed to believe that the primary Abenaki settlement--known all over New England and Quebec--was a settlement of just over 30 people? (I note wiki also fails to mention white prisoners freed. Clearly such people don't count.) And the French had every reason to minimize their losses and to insist on the maximum percentage of women and children among them. See recent history--or the news.

WarWizard's video link finally gets around to casualty numbers at about minute 54.

perfectcaptain05 Aug 2026 10:12 a.m. PST

Rogers lost a few engagements but his enemies certainly thought he was a significant threat, putting a large bounty on his head. The British also placed a great deal of store in his work, with his regiment expanded again and again and sent on so many difficult missions behind the lines. It could be that they weren't necessarily looking at the body count in battles as much as the intel work, and the keeping enemies off balance factor.

I would think the best way to play this is with a simple fast-play campaign that would take an hour at most, playing out a significant skirmish on the tabletop when it occurs. I guess you'd have to whip the board up in a hurry… but the drama of the secret approach to the village and then the retreat would be exciting. The French thought Rogers would hit a number of targets, they were never really sure where he was going. Maybe give the Rangers a choice of where to attack?

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