Uesugi Kenshin  | 28 Jun 2026 8:29 p.m. PST |
Hi all. Looking for some help with some rules for the Italian Wars. Im looking for something where the basic unit is 1 base, or maybe 2 for deep pike columns. Looking to play 15mm, so maybe 3"x1.5" bases (or basing agnostic). Im looking for big battle rules as im primarily interested in starting with Ceresole & Fornovo. Easy to medium difficulty would be a bonus. Thanks for any & all tips! |
| BillyNM | 28 Jun 2026 11:08 p.m. PST |
The free rule set, ‘Sans Peur et Sans Reproche' is hex-based so you can base however you like if it fits in a hex. They are aimed solely at the Italian Wars. Link to Battlegames issue with the rules: link |
| Bokkerijder | 29 Jun 2026 4:16 a.m. PST |
Afaik you could use pike & shotte with no problems |
| Stosstruppen | 29 Jun 2026 6:22 a.m. PST |
Impetvs would work bases are 80mm x 30 or 40mm your preference. and you can do 2 bases like this for a deep pike block. Some of mine have three bases. |
| advocate | 29 Jun 2026 6:40 a.m. PST |
Sam Mustafa's "Scourge of Princes" should do well. |
| All Sir Garnett | 29 Jun 2026 7:35 a.m. PST |
Armati & Advanced Armati from Arti Conliffe |
| Shardik | 29 Jun 2026 1:50 p.m. PST |
Baroque (renaissance Impetus), or Scourge of Princes. For King and Parliament if you want to stretch it to ECW. |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 29 Jun 2026 2:21 p.m. PST |
Hi Guys. Thanks much for the many kind suggestions. So Pike & Shotte was my first thought as I already own it. However since suggested unit frontage for 15mm are 7 to 9 inches i felt like reducing them to 3" might not work as the game was intended. Movement & firing ranges would have to be further reduced to about 1/2 to a third of those recommended for 15mm. Im not totally averse to this idea though. I wasnt aware (or forgot) that I.petus does Rennaissance. If im not mistaken, most of its army lists are for 1618 or later (not that i couldn't tinker with these for Ceresole at least. Ill be looking into Scourge of Princes for sure as I liked Sam's game Blucher. Thanks again. |
GildasFacit  | 01 Jul 2026 1:13 p.m. PST |
Baroque claims to cover 1550-1700 but not much is really covered before 1600. Troop types are 'mouldable' to earlier types but they don't have the right 'feel' for the earlier battles. |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 02 Jul 2026 11:34 a.m. PST |
Thanks Gildas. Im currently looking into Scourge of Princes. |
| Sandinista | 15 Jul 2026 11:24 p.m. PST |
I've played P&S in 15mm using move distances as written and it works fine |
