"US consider placing nukes in Poland, Baltic States" Topic

" U.S. officials are engaged in NATO-internal discussions about the possibility of deploying nuclear weapons to new countries within the alliance, a new report says, in what would be a remarkable proliferation in nuclear sharing.

The Financial Times was the first to report the discussions on Tuesday, citing three unnamed people "briefed on the discussions." The conversations were reportedly focused on the forward deployment of what Washington calls dual-capable aircraft – military jets that can carry out either conventional missions or drop nuclear bombs…"

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Armand

If Putang keeps raising the "I've got nukes blackmail".

Perhaps it is time to remind him we can have nukes on his front doorstep.

Makes you wonder how long it would take for a one way, full afterburner trip from Poland to Moscow?

IIRC, some years ago, Putin held a high security meeting at an underground bunker outside Moscow, supposedly immune from any form of outside monitoring. About 30 minutes after the end of the meeting, the US sent him an email to his secure phone with an attachment that was a complete transcript of the meeting.

I'm not sure, given the degradation of our Intel infrastructure, if we still have an Apple Tag in his jock strap, but I suspect we still know where he is +/- 100m 24/7.

I suspect he knows his life span is measured in our largesse, and our unease over possible retaliation and their supposed Perimetr system.

Spo what if you survive in your own bunker -- what kind of world do you walk out to????
I wonder if ANY of these so called "survivalist" ever think of that?

Russ Dunaway

FWIW, Putin's only strength left is Russia's nukes. Ukraine has the Russians stalemated …

Might not be a bad idea

"The United States currently stations nuclear weapons in five European countries: Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Turkey."

Why Poland too?

Seems like a just another piece of negotiation strategy.

Old Glory +1

What a great idea. Let's reinforce the Russian myth, perpetrated by their various dictators since Peter the Great (including the current one), that NATO is actively seeking to surround- then invade and eliminate- Russia. Who knows, it may even increase Putin's popularity and support.

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What a great idea. Let's reinforce the Russian myth, perpetrated by their various dictators since Peter the Great (including the current one), that NATO is actively seeking to surround- then invade and eliminate- Russia

Yes Putin got a lot of traction with that assumption. Even recently in Ukraine … He may have copyright on it by now …

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Already in contact with my broker. "No matter how bad it gets … someone makes a profit …"

Spo what if you survive in your own bunker -- what kind of world do you walk out to????

Well fanatics like we find in Iran and a few other places. They believe it is a "Win-Win" … They die killing infidels and go to paradise … What could possibly go wrong ?

In my post above delete "that NATO", insert "that a Western power, these days NATO,".

Shouldn't post with a head cold (I hope it's a head cold, not that bloody 'flu).

Yes Putin got a lot of traction with that assumption.

Not just him, mate. I think every Russian autocrat's used the same reason for picking up tasty bits of neighbouring countries. Paranoia seems to be an easy emotion to stir up.

The FT, not worth the toilet paper it's printed on for international news. UK financial news, maybe, anything else not so much.

"three unnamed people" the greatest punchline in political fantasy.

Stone I agree about "unnamed sources", "informed sources", "undisclosed sources"… etc.

I am so tired of not naming where the "information" came from. If you are going to leak, man up or woman up and put your name to it. Either be willing to lose your job for your "principles", or keep your mouth shut. There is no bravery in being a backroom snitch.

Even a janitor could be an informed source.

35thOVI, how then will you manipulate the public consciousness?)))

The deployment of American nuclear weapons in Europe is of little significance, since if they are used, strategic nuclear weapons will quickly follow. Why strike only at European bases if your main adversary is on another continent? Nuclear souvenirs will be sent to all participants in the nuclear show.

Don't understand your question.

My only statement in this thread was we already have nukes in Europe. Why put them in Poland too?

Seems like only a negotiation ploy, if the story is even true.

So again, your question makes no sense to my post.

It was a sarcastic question that didn't require an answer…
I was simply trying to say that sharing information from unknown sources is just one way to manipulate public opinion.

A Permanent Armored Brigade in Poland?

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Armand

Putin's only strength left is Russia's nukes

It's questionable whether they could actually be launched or detonated. Maintaining a nuclear missile force is very costly and there are incentives for corruption in a corrupt place like Russia.

For example a 1-megaton weapon needs about 3 grams of tritium, which costs $30,000 USD per gram. Tritium decays and needs to be replaced about every 4 years. So probably every year someone has a lead briefcase worth $120,000 USD, and possibly much more, depending on how many missiles they are refurbishing. That's an opportunity.

Good point.

Armand

Oberlindes Sol LIC, Russia has almost completely updated its nuclear arsenal quite recently)))