"20mm or 25mm Later Ottoman and Saracen Miniatures" Topic

Hey there, apologies if this isn't the appropriate board

Per title, are there any recommended place to purchase 20mm or 25mm Later Ottoman (which i mean Napoleonics onward, but before WWI) and Saracen/Medieval Arab miniatures?

I only know of Newline Designs, which sold 20mm Ottoman Napoleonics, and Old Glory Miniatures, which sold 25mm of both but they won't ship to my country and the flat $95 USD shipping cost is quite outrageous

I am aware of 1/72 minis, but even 1/72 lines don't have the subjects I'm looking for

Thank you!

I asked Sean at Newline and he ships to USA. According to his website the maximum "rest of world" rate is £35.00 GBP (50USD) for £100.00 GBP+ orders. £100.00 GBP equates to around 35 packs.

@TheOtherOneFromTableScape Yeah, I've bought from Newline too, that comment is directed towards Old Glory specifically

What country are you in?

Long ago, Spiros Koumousis, the late, but very enthusiastic owner of Alphacast, did a series of articles for Miniature Wargames showing Ottomans for the Greek War of Independence (1820s) in baggy trousers, sleeveless jackets, and turbans. I used 25 mm Minifig Great Northern War Turks for these. There had been Turks in uniforms for the Napoleonic period, but my understanding is that this offended the janissaries, and such uniforms had gone away by the beginning of the Greek War of Independence.

I believe Foundry makes Turkish infantry for the Crimean War in uniforms. They also have bashi-bazouk cavalry and a set of horsemen in "Arab" dress. (1850s)

Askari Miniatures makes Turks for the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78. By this time, the Ottomans had a blue uniform cut very much like that of the French or American Civil War Zouaves. They also have some Moroccans who might work for late period bashi-bazouks, if you are pitting Montenegrin, Serb, Bulgarian, Greek, or Albanian irregulars against Turkish irregulars in the early 1900s.

By the late 1880s and up to 1900 or so, the Turkish army was wearing fez, tunic, and trousers, just like the Egyptian army (technically Egypt was still a part of the Ottoman Empire at that time). I used Old Glory Egyptians for my 1897 Turkish army, but Essex and other companies with colonial lines are also good.

Finally, Woodbine Design (Gripping Beast) sells World War I figures in puttees and sun helmets.

Aside from these, a number of companies make individual packages that would supplement some of these periods. Pulp Figures' Istanbul Constabulary set is one of these.

So, there are some ideas.

Grelber

Perry does great Napoleonic Ottomans

I started gaming with Jack Scruby 20mm Napoleonics back in 1970s.

I spent years putting together a 20mm Ottoman army for the period.

The Scruby Mamelukes are still available (AFAIK) from Historifigs Miniatures.

Newline makes the most extensive line of 20mm Ottomans that I know of.

RSM makes a 20mm Janissary figure. It's not listed in their catalog but you can request it. The figures are slightly smaller than the Newline Janissaries.

RSM also makes a 20mm Pathan standard bearer that is spot on for a Greek Derbent. You just have to add a musket.

For the Nizam-i-cedid, a 20mm ACW Zouave in a beret or a tassel cap is perfect. The Nizam wore a fez as part of their dress uniform but wore a beret in the field.

Hagen Miniatures in Germany also makes some 1/72 Ottomans as part of their Napoleonic lines.

Outland Games also makes some 20mm Ottoman figures, including Yoruks and provincial Spahis.

Sadly, one of the best sources for 20mm Turks, Irregular Miniatures, just closed up shop. Ian created two molds for me by placing a Janissary head on top of a Indian Mutiny Lancer and also placing a turban on top of an Indian Mutiny Lancer. These were perfect for the elite Ottoman cavalry (Silahtars) and the Spahis of the Porte.

@Robert Burke Irregular Miniatures closing down is such a great loss indeed, all my predicaments would've gone had they still around.

I'm checking out Historifigs but i have to say that their site is virtually impossible to browse

I've also checked Hagen Miniatures which does have some interesting selections but their price is on the higher side