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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2026 3:52 a.m. PST

I know the Kingdom of the Netherlands issued no flags until after Waterloo. I also know my fellow gamers. What flags are you issuing your 1815 Dutch-Belgians? And is there a commercial source?

Thanks.

JimDuncanUK01 May 2026 4:33 a.m. PST

In what scale or size?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2026 5:54 a.m. PST

28mm ideally. But I'm not committed to commercial flags. I AM interested in what people are using.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2026 6:01 a.m. PST

From someone on TMP some years ago, I was sent page after page of flags for most units that fought at Waterloo – Prussian, French, Anglo-Dutch.

This included speculative Prussian Landwehr flags & Dutch-Belgian flags for all infantry units.

My Napoleonic games benefit from units carrying flags so I am OK with this anachronism.

I have no recollection as to who produced these or where they came from so, not much help, RP – sorry.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2026 10:19 a.m. PST

In my own SYW Austrian project, I keep coming across this regarding Irregular troops. "Although they may have had Colours issued, they did not carry them in the field." 🙄
Balderdash and poppycock!
"As the Colonel shall decide" is my mantra, and I'm the Colonel.

Lou from BSM Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2026 11:10 a.m. PST

Try here…

You can lookup their website. The flag sheets contain both historical (known flags carried) as well as hypothetical.

auction

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2026 4:07 p.m. PST

That looks a lot like what I was given, though mine are 20mm.

d88mm194001 May 2026 7:37 p.m. PST

I did find this morsel from Co-Pilot:

The Dutch flag in 1815 was characterized by its horizontal tricolor of red, white, and blue, and it was officially recognized as the national flag of the Netherlands.
Historical Context
In 1815, the Netherlands was undergoing significant political changes following the Napoleonic Wars. The Congress of Vienna led to the establishment of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands, which included both the northern and southern regions (now Belgium). The flag used during this period was a horizontal tricolor of red, white, and blue, which has been a symbol of the Dutch nation since the late 16th century.

The Royal Flag
The royal flag of the Netherlands, which was in use from 1815 to 1908, featured a similar design but included additional elements such as a coat of arms or a broader ribbon. An image of this flag can be found in the Wikimedia Commons, showcasing its design during this period
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Flags at the Battle of Waterloo
During the Battle of Waterloo in June 1815, the Dutch troops were part of the Allied forces. However, it is noted that the official flags for the Dutch army were not issued until after the battle, and any flags carried during the campaign were likely unofficial or of unknown patterns
pendrakenforum.co.uk
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. This indicates that while the tricolor was recognized, the specific military flags used at that time may not have been standardized.

Conclusion
The Dutch flag of 1815 is significant, not only for its design, but also for its role in the broader context of Dutch history and identity during a time of change. The tricolor remains a symbol of the Netherlands today, reflecting its enduring legacy.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2026 7:02 a.m. PST

I thought I had painted flags for them…. checking my photos: wait, no, that was Hanoverians.

Checking my notes: planning on the tricolour, probably without embellishments, whenever I get back to finishing up the Netherlands.

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