"TOW, but, no love for 40k?" Topic

So GW make TOW.

But where is 3rd-5th (?) 40k?

Fantasy players get all those rereleases, but where are the 40k ones?

Obviously there were reasons for TOW, but it's a slice of 90-2000s that 40k is now missing.

Thoughts?

Do you want old figures back?

How could GW do it, as there is no game to bring back?

I think the nostalgia wing of the 40K player base is concentrated in Horus Heresy.

But that's different.

So it's interesting, for that is said to be the most popular game, to have so many models unavailable.

Whereas, TOW are full of them.

I guess TOW is being treated like a separate game, so thesw are actually the current models.

Let me start off with, I do agree with you that the period of 40k is superior to what we have now. From what I can tell in both my personal experience and what I am seeing with people that I play TOW with is that a significant portion of those who played WFB just flat out left the fantasy scene. I for one moved to 40K, but kept my old fantasy armies so that I could play some oldhammer with likeminded folks, and I was able to get a few games in over the past decade since WFB died and TOW was released. When talking to folks who are playing TOW, it is like we all have the same story. We all left the fantasy part of the game, and are coming back for TOW.

40K did not have that kind of ending. They just re-wrote the game mechanics more than normal and went on from there. They still claim that this is the normal progression of the game from the Rogue Trader days. That and my personal belief is that after the court case with Chapterhouse, they decided to re-write as much as they can to get their IP fully protected. That court case happened, then they released the 8th edition with new Primaris models, is not a coincidence in my mind.

On top of that, I would also guess that they took a look at how astronomically high Fantasy models were going for on places like E-Bay and decided to get in on that while they have the molds in good condition and people like me who still want those models. The market for most of the older models for 40K are either replaceable in their current inventory that they are trying to sell, or not what they want to sell anymore. I do not believe that they released The Old World out of charity or loyalty to 30 year old fans of Warhammer.

I feel the space marine change is much like AOS. I'm not sure how much is still made, but I don't think I've seen a regular marine promoted for a long time.

Just like much of Warhammer fantasy battles. However, I think WFB were more promoted than classic marines due to AOS.

Point to some modern classic marines promotion? None.

AOS still, or at least up to recently to 2 years ago, had WFB figures in the regular AOS armies.

So 40k actually has some worse white washing going on.

Apparently a lot of guard have disappeared also.

One issue with a TOW type game, is it has to be set in another time or place, but still fit in.

This should be easy.

Tyranids and marines have both changed drastically after 2000(?). Necrons too. So a game set after HH, but before the modern setting is easily possible.

Classic plastic nids, marines, probably necrons (could still offer metal like they do).

Even with plastics, they have all changed drastically since then, style wise. So a 90s-early 2000s game could hold its weight.

Basically 3rd edition, I guess.