"Peace in our time?" Topic

"A request by Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif for a two-week ceasefire in the war may yield results, reports say.

A regional source said "some good news is expected from both sides soon", reports CNN."

If he pulls it off, Sharif should get the Nobel Peace Prize.

If he pulls it off, both sides will undoubtedly heave (private) sighs of relief. Iran survives but is damaged. The US gets out of a war it can't win. Both sides will claim victory & the world might(?) start to settle back to normalcy.

There is not enough trust in the Iranian regime to allow two weeks. I like many wish none of this happened, but we can all agree that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

Say, weren't you just arguing it's the end of the world as we know it?? Could it be that Trump knew better than you what works against the Iranian regime?

Let's wait for the results of the negotiations… There's a high probability that Trump simply wants to kill all the negotiators again)))

"Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE! The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution."
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"14 minutes ago
Trump posts Iran's official ceasefire declaration

US President Donald Trump on Tuesday published Iran's official statement on Truth Social, in which Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi declared that Iranian forces will cease military operations if attacks halt and safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz will be allowed for two weeks under coordination with Iranian forces."

The US military can no doubt use a two week respite. But we need regime change. Only a fool would trust the mullahs.

Doc, that is my opinion as well.

"taqiyya"

+1 doc and 35th. Now POTUS is saying the new Iranian leaders are different, smarter, less radical. Not buying it. No encouragement for Iranians to rise up now? And nothing about the nukes…this can't be the end. Where is the uranium? Iran still controls the straits and did I hear Iran wants war reparations? Pakistan gets our thanks for pulling us out of fulfilling the mass destruction threats..it was starting to feel potentially apocalyptic. Nobody gambles this close to the brink. Time to get smarter ourselves. We have to get what we came for after all this.

If you read the statement that the IGRC put out to the people of Iran, I'll summarize; it's pretty insane. I would be surprised if the cease fire goes the full two weeks.

SB,

So Trump knows better how exactly. Will Iran still export terrorism? Yes. Does Iran still have enriched uranium? Yes. Is the regime still in power? Yes. So what has Trump achieved?

Two weeks should give the U.S. plenty of time to reload.

It is a ceasefire of 2 weeks. Right now that is all we know.

Narratives are flying from all media sources and sides.

I'm certain Trump did not want to obliterate their power grid, and I am glad he did not feel he had to. Thing to watch for, it seems to me, is whether the 82nd get sent back to CONUS.

Pakistan is the only Arab/Muslim nation with nukes. (Yes, I know the Iranians are not Arabs.) I suspect they very much want to keep it that way. And Trump did NOT create the Abraham Accords and bring in the Gulf monarchies just to maintain the status quo.

It would appear as though there will be a fortnight long cease fire. Sharif for a Noble Peace Prize!
The media reports that Iran and the US have agreed to a double ceasefire.

No US attacks on Iran & the Straits of Hormuz will be opened.
(yes, those Straits which were, of course, open before the war started).

Both sides will claim"victory" as, I hope, things slide back to the pre-war status quo.

We absolutely do NOT want to slide back into the pre-war situation. And I cannot imagine Donald trump sees that as even remotely a desirable thing.

Wonder how Abraham's Shield is coming?

This is the summary of GROK's long answer to that question:

In summary, the Abraham Shield represents the security "upgrade" of the Abraham Accords—from diplomatic normalization to a practical, battle-tested defense partnership. It has deepened through the stresses of recent wars with Iran and is positioned as a foundation for longer-term regional stability, though full institutionalization would require sustained U.S. leadership and political will from partners. Events around the current two-week ceasefire could influence its trajectory, particularly if negotiations weaken Iran further or open new diplomatic space.

More on Abraham's Shield:

Current Status (as of April 2026)

Operational cooperation is advancing quietly but significantly: Israel and the UAE lead with data-sharing, joint protocols, and defense-tech ties. Bahrain participates at a governmental level despite parliamentary friction. Morocco has defense understandings but less integration in the air shield.
Discussions for permanence: Officials are exploring a more formal networked system with preauthorized elements. The Iran war accelerated momentum, as the shared threat demonstrated practical benefits.
U.S. role is central: Washington facilitates via CENTCOM, joint exercises, and potential funding/hardware support. Some proposals frame it as a U.S.-backed alliance involving Accords countries, Egypt, Jordan, and others.
Not fully formalized: It remains a "concept" and set of bilateral/multilateral practices rather than a NATO-style treaty with mutual defense clauses. Expansion depends on politics—Saudi Arabia's involvement is often cited as a game-changer but remains stalled over Palestinian issues.
Defense-tech corridor: Beyond pure defense, it includes joint R&D, Israeli exports to Gulf partners (Arab states accounted for a notable share of Israel's defense sales in recent years), and economic ties in high-tech/security sectors.

I have my youngest son is an Army Major somewhere in the Middle East.

I want this war to end.

SB, So Trump knows better how exactly. Will Iran still export terrorism? Yes. Does Iran still have enriched uranium? Yes. Is the regime still in power? Yes. So what has Trump achieved?

Sure, the regime is still in power, proxies are still causing trouble, and the uranium stockpile didn't vanish (though its buried under a mountain now). Nobody serious thought a few weeks of airstrikes would magically fix all that without a full invasion.

Trump wasn't trying to "solve Iran" in a few weeks, that was never the plan. The goals were straightforward: smash their missile program, wreck their navy and air force, set back the nuclear stuff to reduce their ability to project power and attack the US and neighbors, and put enough pressure on them to come back to the table.

Here's what actually happened

*Iran's missile launches dropped like 90-95% after the strikes hit their launchers and factories hard. They can't keep firing big salvos anymore.

*Their navy got basically annihilated

* Their the air force is basically gone, air superiority was locked down quick.

*Nuclear sites took more damage, delaying any weapon push even further (though yeah, some enriched uranium is still out there and buried deep).

*Defense industrial base was hammered – drone and missile factories and depots (turns out the underground "drone and rocket cities" were just one big target!), and drone launches way down from the start.

*IRGC and Basij military bases and forces and commanders attrited -- these are the regimes equivalent of the SS and Gestapo that enforce their power.

* They got forced into a ceasefire deal and had to reopen the Strait of Hormuz under pressure. Talks are happening right now.

Bottom line: Iran is way weaker militarily and under real pressure to negotiate. That's measurable progress, not total victory. The real debate is whether this weakening + leverage was worth it, not pretending everything should be fixed overnight.