"So does the Iranian regime finally fall THIS TIME?" Topic

"A synagogue in the Belgian city of Liège was rocked on Monday morning by an explosion outside its doors in what authorities are considering a potential terror attack.

At around 4 am on Monday morning, a blast was heard outside the synagogue on Rue Léon Frédéricq in the city of Liège, in the French-speaking Wallonia region of Belgium. Fortunately, no one was injured in the explosion

According to a report from Le Soir, federal prosecutors have taken over the case "given the possible indications of a terrorist act."

The country's Explosive Ordnance Disposal Service (SEDEE) has also been deployed to the scene to investigate.

So far, authorities have not commented on a possible motive; however, Belgian Prime Minister Bart De Wever wrote of the attack: "An explosion occurred in front of a synagogue in Liège last night. Antisemitism is an attack on our values and our society, and we must fight it unequivocally."

"Possible Terrorism" poppycock!! 🤨 explosions outside the doors of synagogues happen every day!! Bloody Alarmists!! 😏🙄

Humor for the day. This sounds like so many of the apologist out there for radical fundamentalist Islam that I've been reading.

From "the Babylon Bee":🐝

"NEW YORK CITY — Mayor Zohran Mamdani has strongly condemned New Yorkers for making Muslims throw improvised explosive devices at them.

After two bombs were hurled by ISIS-inspired Muslims at a group gathered near the Mayor's mansion, Mamdani demanded that people stop forcing Muslims to kill them with explosives.

"I am absolutely disgusted that people would make Muslims throw bombs at them," said Mamdani. "I condemn the people who had bombs chucked at them in the strongest possible manner. We will not tolerate the Islamophobia that compels Muslims to construct homemade explosives and toss them into crowds. New York City is better than this."

Mamdani has ordered all of the citizens who had explosive devices flung at them to apologize for making Muslims do so. "This is how we heal," said Mamdani. "Until people accept responsibility for Muslims trying to kill them, we cannot have peace. Or, until they just let the Muslims kill them. Either way."

At publishing time, Mamdani had proposed a new law making it illegal to run away from bombs that are thrown at you."

Headline from another Bee satire.

"Iran Boasts It Has Destroyed Hundreds Of US Missiles With Its Buildings" 😂

From the Daily Mail:

"The New York City bomb suspects were radicalized by the Islamic State and recently returned from visits to the Middle East, it has emerged.

Ibrahim Kayumi, 19, and Emir Balat, 18, were arrested Saturday after a homemade 'Mother of Satan' bomb was thrown outside Mayor Zohran Mamdani's house during an anti-Islam protest.

The teens made pro-ISIS statements while in police custody and admitted to watching terror propaganda videos …"

Subject: New York bomb suspects 'radicalized by ISIS' recently 'returned from Middle East' it's revealed, as FBI swarms their wealthy Pennsylvania suburb | Daily Mail Online


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At publishing time, Mamdani had proposed a new law making it illegal to run away from bombs that are thrown at you."

If I didn't know that came from the Bee, I would probably believe it.

There has to be some truth, for satire to be funny. 😉

Part of the Mandatory Martyrdom Initiative.
MMI for Infidels!

Subject: U.S. Strikes Devastate Iran's Bandar Abbas Port, Sink 11 Warships | WAT – JFeed


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Subject: B-1B and B-52 Bombers Land in UK for "Massive Surge" in Iran Airstrikes – JFeed


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Inca77, I read you post on the previous page here. Some of what you posted does make some sense. But as you know I may see things a little differently. From a different POV based on …

As I posted on another thread.

I've been saying this so many times. But some don't seem to get it. I'm not going to paraphrase Sun Tzu again.
However, in no way shape or form do you telegraph any of your moves. What you are going to do, what you might do, what you won't do. So regardless, what would make some happy here.

The US will not violate OPSEC. Get it … The American leadership is not going to convey a "sense of direction & concrete goals" in the media, etc. I'd think what is going on is pretty straight forward to me and others.

And there will be some disinformation thrown in the mix too. Things will be said to the media who will report it. That really is misdirection, subterfuge, a bold face lie, etc. So your enemy believes you are e.g. Midway is running low on water, landing at Sardinia and not Sicily, invading at Calais, are not going to attack in the Ardennes, etc., etc.

You can't all be that blinded by your disdain, hatred, etc. for the POTUS and his admin. That you can't see a hint of what is going on based on military history, combat ops, battle drills, FTXs, etc., etc. … Oh wait … maybe you can ? 🤔😮

However, how's about this, like a Poker game one always looks for "Tells" from other around the table who want to take your $. USD USD ♠♣♥♦🃏

OVI +1 and then some …

If I didn't know that came from the Bee, I would probably believe it.

It certainly fits their pattern … repeatedly …

Part of the Mandatory Martyrdom Initiative.
MMI for Infidels!

Would sound like something militant islamists would go for.

Well Mamdani's wife gave 👍 on the net for 7 Oct … So I'm sure he would agree …

And not too surprising US facilities, etc. are being attacked in many places in the world. So far it has been more of a nuisance. The lunatic fringe of an already plethora of islamists lunatics brings these types out like flies on 💩 …

I think once things calm down in a month or so in Iran, Lebanon, even Gaza, etc. With the islamists in those locations and others and even more attrited by the US and IDF … The Big Kahuna has to be the Ayatollah + the IRGC, Basij, etc. are pretty much out all of business. By either fleeing or more preferably dead … ☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠

@goibinu

Bibi doesn't care if he sets the entire Middle East alight. He reckons that if Muslims are fighting Muslims they'll leave Israel alone. He's wrong, and so are you.
It'll make the world a much more dangerous place, kill hundreds of thousands and wreck world economies. Enjoy.

Ya know what will be even worse? The day Iran tests a nuclear weapon to declare itself a nuclear power is the day the world finds out how many nuclear weapons Israel actually has…and the day 5,000 years of Persian culture ends.

So pick your poison carefully…

OVI +1
SMb +1

Well you would wouldn't you?.

Bibi doesn't care if he sets the entire Middle East alight. He reckons that if Muslims are fighting Muslims they'll leave Israel alone. He's wrong, and so are you.

It'll make the world a much more dangerous place, kill hundreds of thousands and wreck world economies. Enjoy.

Hmmm …? Once again making comments that are more bias funded by TDS. Again, I'll have to say You Are Wrong … 👈

Your comments border on the absurd, false, etc. IMO …

The bottom line – No Nukes for Iran.

Oh yeah – and Iran's direct and proxy body count is close to 2 Million…so, we're WAYYYY past "hundreds of thousands" at this point.

Iranian sources claim that since the beginning of the war, Iranian armed forces have destroyed at least 16 radar and communications systems at US military bases

If that is coming from Iran it is lies, propaganda, bull💩, etc., etc.

Like Hamas you can't believe anything Iran's militant islamists gov't.

IF all those US sites were hit by Iran it seems they are having no effect. Note the US and IDF are making strikes almost constantly …

SBm +1

Incavart77, victory has a very clear definition: achieving a better situation for yourself than you had before the war…

35thOVI, that's exactly what I said. ISIS is Iran's enemy. But using this war, they will try to attack "infidels" everywhere.

SBminisguy, in response, an Iranian missile carrying nuclear waste will arrive, and Israel will become a Chernobyl zone for three hundred years… Israel is a small country, and Iran has plenty of nuclear fuel for its nuclear power plants.

Legion 4, these Iranian claims are easily refuted – just show these facilities intact… But Chinese reconnaissance satellite images confirm most of the Persian claims.
And matters of faith are handled by the church, not me.)))
I recall Trump's recent statements about the complete destruction of the Iranian nuclear program. When did he lie? Then or now?)))

The interesting thing about this discussion is that people seem to be describing three different wars:

one to collapse the regime,
one to stop nuclear weapons,
and One to punish Iran militarily.

Those are not the same objectives, and they don't end the same way.

Legion, I get what you're saying about OPSEC and deception. No one expects a war plan laid out in a press briefing. But even in past wars the political objective was usually clear enough that people understood what "winning" was supposed to look like. That's the part I'm still trying to get my head around here.

@Cuprum2

That definition of victory is actually the key question. Tactical success and strategic success are not always the same thing. History has plenty of examples where one was achieved without the other.

At the moment it seems like the operational contest comes down largely to missile stocks versus interceptor stocks. But even if one side runs out first, that doesn't necessarily resolve the political side of the war.

Thus the missile stockpile question is important, but the real variable may be production. If one side can keep replacing missiles faster than the other side can replace interceptors, the timeline of the war changes quite a bit.

I heard POTUS say we've destroyed 90% of their missile launchers and that would be helpful if accurate. However he also said Iran has Tomahawks which is an astonishing statement.

To be honest, I've stopped taking Trump's statements seriously, whether they're positive or negative from my perspective. Personally, I'm left with the impression that his plan didn't work, he had no Plan B, and now he's improvising on the fly…

The longer the war lasts, the less likely Trump is to retain power…

Iran's strategy is to preserve its "missile cities" (a complex of underground factories and warehouses for producing and storing missiles). Only a concrete-piercing "superbomb" can damage them, and only a large bomber can deliver it. But these bombers don't risk using them, meaning Iran's air defenses aren't suppressed.

The second part of the strategy is to destroy the enemy's air defense infrastructure in the region, thereby reducing its ability to intercept Iranian missiles. When the anti-Iranian forces' air defenses are significantly degraded, hundreds of cheap drones will be able to penetrate any target with relative ease. Just like what's happening in Ukraine. Moreover, these drones will most likely operate in swarms, carry anti-aircraft missiles for self-defense, and be accompanied by a large number of dummy drones to distract enemy air defenses. But these are, of course, my assumptions.

Caprum and others, those are some really convoluted counter posts in attempts to garner a future failure justification for the current operation. 😱🙂

Without reading anything. Just my own observations daily since this started.

I watch Fox morning news daily from 7 to 9. (The department of war is doing another press conference LIVE at the moment by the way). Fox has a reporter that reports live from the capital in Israel daily. They interrupt normal broadcasting every time the sirens went off in the capital for another Iranian or proxie attack. Anyway, every day since this started, the interruptions have become less and less. I have not seen one this morning so far.

So I do believe the reductions have significantly decreased.

Majority of missiles are being intercepted, so degrading is very minimal, at best.

Reports from China?? Isn't that like believing news from the Nazis in WW2? 🤨😉

what I like about this war is that it is a huge commercial for green energy

Drones:

Interesting article I thought. (Did not include images of the rounds in clips, but pretty interesting looking rounds)

Be berry berry quiet. I'm hunting dwones. 🤫

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"The U.S. Military's Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division (NSWC Crane), has designed and developed the Drone Killer Cartridge (DKC). The cost-effective family of ammunition is designed to increase a warfighter's probability of a hit and kill against drone threats.
DKC is designed for use in rifles, automatic rifles and machine guns, but it disperses a cluster of projectiles upon firing with an effective range far greater than a conventional shotgun's capabilities. The effect increases probability hits and kills against Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) threats in a way that also minimizes risk of collateral damage from projectiles that don't impact the target.
The DKC family of loads includes both pelletized and segmented designs. The segmented version includes a one-piece projectile that mechanically self-separates into discrete, spin-stabilized sub-projectiles prior to muzzle exit. Pelletized DKC includes a projectile assembly containing a stack of high-density, spherical buckshot-sized pellets mechanically disbursed at muzzle exit.
"We're enabling extended range, shotgun-style effects through automatic rifles and machine guns with nothing more than an ammunition change," said Brian Hoffman, man-portable weapons chief engineer at NSWC Crane. During a recent demonstration at Camp Atterbury in Edinburgh, Ind., DKC achieved a 92 percent success rate against drones.
Colonel Andrew Konicki, program manager of Ground Based Air Defense for Program Executive Officer Land Systems, said the Marine Corps plans to broadly implement the cartridges at the operator level.
"The Drone Killer Cartridge represents a pivotal shift in countering the pervasive threat of enemy drones," Col. Konicki said. "This type of ammunition provides an immediate and significant improvement to our kinetic kill capabilities by using standard-issued weapons that are already in the hands of Marines. The collaborative work between NSWC Crane and the Marine Corps has positive impacts across the ecosystem of Homeland Defense as well as self-protection for our forward deployed troops in harm's way. With DKC, we are adding capability well beyond conventional options, while also bending the cost curve for neutralizing drone threats, particularly to the individual Marine."
Unmanned systems are reshaping military tactics, challenging established operations and creating life-threatening threats for warfighters. To counter the critical threat, the Department is aiming to improve overall defense capabilities.  
"By design, DKC provides broader terminal coverage on and around the intended target, which increases effectiveness against stationary and moving drones by helping offset imperfect aim," said Hoffman. "There's a good reason why bird hunters use shotguns. We've applied a similar philosophy to killing drones while amplifying overall performance. DKC sub-projectiles exit the barrel at velocities typical of centerfire rifle ammunition. Those velocities, and associated energies, far exceed shotgun capabilities and serve to extend effective range while offering more devastating effects on target."
DKC was developed from internal NSWC Crane Naval Innovative Science and Engineering (NISE) funding and investments from the Department of Homeland Security and Marine Corps. The load involves only an ammunition change, eliminating new-weapon qualification requirements and accelerates initial fielding. It also removes any requirement that warfighters carry an additional weapon dedicated to countering drones.
"When you compare the cost it takes to kill a drone using DKC versus some other solutions that are being employed, it's a night-and-day difference," said Hoffman. "The projectiles used in segmented DKC and pelletized DKC are both inert, meaning there is no energetic material in the projectile itself. The separation mechanisms are purely mechanical, and the cartridge case, primer, and propellant are common to other ammunition types already in production. These attributes combine to help keep it elegantly simple yet effective while ensuring low-cost producibility."
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Legion and SB +1

Read this multiple times the last few days, so checked it out using AI:

"Yes, tankers are moving through the Strait of Hormuz with transponders (AIS) turned off to avoid detection amidst high risks. As of early March 2026, amid a near-total halt in traffic, some vessels, such as the Shenlong, have disabled signals while navigating the area. Other tactics include broadcasting false locations or claiming to be Chinese-owned to bypass threats."

Exact numbers? That answer is nebulous. But I doubt very high.

35thOVI, German aerial photography from World War II is a very valuable source of information, and I've never encountered any falsifications in it.

I trust any satellite images published by official agencies until they're caught in a lie… Chinese, American, Ukrainian, and all the rest—it doesn't matter.
So far, I've seen no reason not to trust Chinese photos. If you've seen anyone catch them creating fake satellite photos, let me know…

If Iran truly has no navy, no air force, and most of its missiles and launchers destroyed, what is the remaining military objective that requires continued bombing?

Duh. FACTORIES and IRGC strongholds/armories/bunkers.
Again, Duh.

It's not just about degrading what they currently have, it's about rendering them incapable of rebuilding any of it, or of expanding into other weapons.

It's also about fracturing the IRGC and eliminating it's ability to function as a threat to the rest of the world or an oppressive force against the people of Persia.

And of course, costing them so much money that they can't fund the Three Horrible "Hs" anymore.

Yesterday I heard from an ex-CIA source (with connections) that the new "leader" of Iran is severely injured and may even be either in a coma or so heavily sedated that he's not even aware of his appointment or anything currently going on.

Which would be a very safe "leader" for that regime. He's already so dead to the world that there's no point in making him actually dead.

More joining their friends.

Iran International:

"Asadollah Badfar, head of the Basij at Iran's armed forces general staff, has been reported killed during joint US-Israeli strikes on Iran.

Badfar previously served as head of the Basij secretariat at the armed forces general staff.

Iranian authorities have not formally announced his death, but a funeral for the senior commander was held in the city of Qom on March 9."

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"Mohammad Mehdi Farhadi Ramin, an Iranian man wanted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation over alleged cyberattacks, was killed last week in the city of Hamadan during joint US-Israeli strikes on Iran, a review by Iran International of state funeral announcements showed.

Farhadi had been wanted by US authorities since 2020 on accusations of taking part in cyber intrusions targeting entities in the United States and several other countries.

US documents accuse him and another suspect of illegally accessing computer systems and stealing hundreds of terabytes of data, including information related to national security, foreign policy, civilian nuclear research, aerospace data and unpublished scientific studies.

A funeral for Farhadi was held on Monday in Hamadan."

Another point with the continued bombing (especially now that B-2s and B-52s are definitely in the mix) is actually a message to Putin and Xi (and any other bad actors) of what US military tech can do that they cannot. A load of precision hardware coming out of a practically invisible B-2 oughta trigger a big blink.

And that, too, is a goal of this war.

@Parzival

That's a pretty expansive set of objectives. Were those actually stated at the outset, or are we inferring them from how the campaign is unfolding?

If the objective is destroying factories, the IRGC, and their ability to rebuild, then we're talking about a very large strategic objective. Air campaigns aimed at that kind of outcome historically take a lot longer than people expect.

Caprum, believe what you would like to. 😉

I at least understand your motives for it.

Sure has killed those TMP threads on the continuing Ukraine War. You and Tango.. occasionally a couple others. MSM in the States ignores it completely now. One might think nothing is happening there at all. 🤔

But then all the anti Trumpers have been up in arms about pretty much everything he does or they believe he will do, since before he was elected.

Panama Canal takeover, Greenland takeover, Canadian Invasion, trying to deport illegals, the 12 day bombing of Iran, no support for the Ukraine, making people show a picture id to vote, closing the Border, sinking Drug boats, conquering Cuba, grabbing the narco leader of Venezuela (another that was going to last forever with thousands of US boots on the ground.😉), cutting off the Ukraine ( still fighting there?)

How about some "oldies but goodies" from the AI archives (that liberal AI search engines will admit to)

How many of you still hang on to these? 😉

"1. Russian Collusion (The "Russia Hoax")
One of the most persistent accusations was that the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian government to influence the 2016 election.

The Mueller Report: After a 22-month investigation, Special Counsel Robert Mueller concluded that while Russia interfered in the election, the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government".
The Steele Dossier: Much of the initial media narrative relied on the "Steele Dossier," a collection of unverified memos funded by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Later investigations, including the Durham Report, found that the FBI lacked a proper basis to launch the full investigation and that the dossier contained "shoddy" and uncorroborated information.
CNN

2. Hunter Biden Laptop Disinformation
In the weeks before the 2020 election, the New York Post reported on a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden containing emails about international business dealings.

Media and Intelligence Reaction: Over 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter suggesting the story had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation". Major social media platforms and news outlets suppressed or dismissed the story as "Russian disinformation".

Correction: Years later, major outlets like the New York Times and Washington Post authenticated the laptop's contents, confirming that the emails were legitimate and not a Russian plant.

3. The "Very Fine People" Quote
Trump was frequently accused of calling neo-Nazis and white nationalists in Charlottesville "very fine people."

Contextual Correction: Transcripts of the 2017 press conference show that Trump explicitly stated, "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally". He clarified he was referring to peaceful protesters on both sides of the debate over Confederate statues. Fact-checking site Snopes updated its rating in 2024 to reflect this context.

4. Alfa-Bank Allegations
Mainstream outlets reported on a "secret server" link between the Trump Organization and Russia's Alfa-Bank.
Outcome: The FBI and Special Counsel John Durham investigated these claims and found no evidence of a secret communication channel.

5. Lafayette Square "Photo Op"
Media and Democrats accused Trump of having peaceful protesters tear-gassed and forcibly removed from Lafayette Square specifically for a photo op at St. John's Church in June 2020.

Inspector General Findings: A report by the Interior Department's Inspector General found that the U.S. Park Police had already planned to clear the area to install fencing before they knew about Trump's plan to visit the church.

6. Recent Retractions and Settlements

ABC News Defamation Settlement: In 2024, ABC News agreed to pay $15 USD million to the Trump presidential library to settle a defamation lawsuit after an anchor incorrectly stated Trump was found civilly liable for "rape" (the jury's technical finding was for "sexual abuse").

FEMA Neglect Claims: During the 2024 hurricane season, media outlets accused Trump of lying about FEMA neglecting Republican areas. Later reports indicated that at least one FEMA supervisor was fired for instructing workers to bypass homes with Trump signs."

Evil Orange does it… "IT's BAD!!!" 🙄

Again. For what I think is now the third time in this thread alone. I just copied and pasted from back on page 4 or 5.🙄

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These are the U.S. currently stated goals. (Not those of the MSM or Presidential opponents).

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Destroying Iran's Ballistic Missile Capabilities: This includes neutralizing offensive missiles and razing the country's missile production infrastructure to the ground.

Annihilating the Iranian Navy: The mission seeks to eliminate the IRGC navy to prevent the disruption of global shipping and the closing of the Strait of Hormuz.

Preventing Nuclear Weaponization: Ensuring that Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon by targeting remaining enrichment facilities and weaponization research sites.
PBS
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These were given on day 2! I realize that most MSM ignore them. 🙄

Acceptable regime change only came along later, by the Prez, and that change is very nebulous in what he says on a given day.

Israel's goals?? Those are their own.

You did not respond to the strategic argument Cuprum2 made.

His argument is about underground missile production, drone swarm tactics and air defense degradation.

Instead you've given us Fox News sirens and anti-Trump media claims. None of that really addresses the strategic questions being discussed about the war itself. I thought we were discussing the war, not American media politics.

For you TDSers and TDAers.

Here is your hero, (I at least respect him for being honest and not trying to hide it with false concerns and rhetoric).

Embrace your inner James.

There is no reasoning with this.

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Incavart please go back to page one and start reading to here. Almost all these have been discussed, if not here, then the other numerous Iran threads.

Are you of the opinion that like other Presidents, we should not have responded to Iran and her proxies continuing attacks since 1978? Or worse! Continue to pay them Danegeld? Maybe more useless sanctions?

Politics has everything to do with this. Always does in UM discussions.

I should add, Parz pretty much answered that. As I stated, the over 90% interceptions, pretty much puts the limited success of degradation to rest.

More from good old liberal AI search engine.

"As of March 10, 2026, a combined U.S. and Israeli air campaign known as Operation Epic Fury has significantly degraded Iran's military manufacturing and operational capabilities. Officials report that over 3,000 targets have been struck in the first ten days of the conflict.

Key Updates on Manufacturing Degradation

Missile Production Facilities: Heavy strikes have targeted the Parchin Military Complex, specifically destroying several solid propellant production facilities crucial for advanced munitions.

Engine & Warhead Fabrication: The IRGC Shahroud Missile Facility in Semnan Province was struck, neutralizing complexes used for mixing and casting missile engines and warheads.

Raw Material Processing: Strikes on sites in Garmdareh and Shahr-e Jadid-e Parand have disrupted the processing of ammonium perchlorate and other chemicals required for solid-fuel missiles.

Drone Manufacturing: Targeted raids on facilities in Shahin Shahr (Esfahan Province) and various defense industrial sites have been conducted to halt the development and assembly of the Shahed-style drones.
Institute for the Study of War
Institute for the Study of War

Operational Impact Estimates
Capability Reported Degradation
Missile Launchers ~60–90% decline
Air Defenses ~80% degraded; S-300/S-400 systems largely non-functional
Ballistic Missile Fire Rate ~86–92% collapse in regional launches
Drone Launches ~73–83% drop since the start of conflict
Naval Strength ~17–43 vessels destroyed, including major frigates and submarines

Strategic Objectives
The campaign's current phase is focused on "hunting down" the remaining mobile launchers and weapons stockpiles while systematically dismantling the factories that could replenish them. While air superiority has been established, experts note that Iran's vast size and underground facilities continue to pose challenges for total neutralization. "

Where exactly were those three objectives stated together like that? Do you have the link to the briefing or speech?

Were those specific objectives formally stated by the administration, and how are they being measured? For example, what counts as "destroying ballistic missile capability" in practical terms?

To me, the fact that you have jumped to domestic political grievances is often a sign that the original argument wasn't going well. None of that addresses the military questions that were raised earlier about missile production and air defense.

Responding to Iranian actions and debating the strategy of this particular war are two different questions. The discussion here has been about the latter.

With respect, if there's a particular point you'd like addressed, it might be simpler to restate it rather than asking people to excavate nine pages of posts.

Caprum and others, those are some really convoluted counter posts in attempts to garner a future failure justification for the current operation.

Yeah, like this statement from Cuprum

Iran's strategy is to preserve its "missile cities" (a complex of underground factories and warehouses for producing and storing missiles). Only a concrete-piercing "superbomb" can damage them, and only a large bomber can deliver it. But these bombers don't risk using them, meaning Iran's air defenses aren't suppressed.

First, the US proved it could over-fly Iran with impunity *before* its air defences were suppressed when B-2 bombers blasted their nuclear centrifuge bunkers. Now after 10 days of constant strikes, Iran's air defenses are highly suppressed and the so-called "rocket cities" bunkers packed full of rockets and drones are known, from what I've read they have been attacked to (1) seal them by collapsing entrances and (2) deep penetrating bombs to physically destroy them. The US and Israel is also systematically destroying Iran's military-industrial capacity -- drone and rocket factories, munitions factories, etc.

The second part of the strategy is to destroy the enemy's air defense infrastructure in the region, thereby reducing its ability to intercept Iranian missiles. When the anti-Iranian forces' air defenses are significantly degraded, hundreds of cheap drones will be able to penetrate any target with relative ease. Just like what's happening in Ukraine. Moreover, these drones will most likely operate in swarms, carry anti-aircraft missiles for self-defense, and be accompanied by a large number of dummy drones to distract enemy air defenses. But these are, of course, my assumptions.

This is not Putin's War of Aggression against Ukraine. Iran does not border its foes and can only use its dwindling supply of Shaheed drones and missiles, and attacks by those are reportedly down by 90%. Swarm drones are short ranged, and the only people the Iranian regime can swarm drone strike are its own citizens.

Oh, speaking of Putin, and to reinforce my already stellar TDS credentials, I think Putin had compromised T**** many years ago.
T**** is Putin's lapdog. You know, KGB and all that.

Carry on. Get back to what a genius operation this Iran thing is. Just thought I would put a tiny scratch in the record.

If Iran truly has no navy, no air force, and most of its missiles and launchers destroyed, what is the remaining military objective that requires continued bombing?

Lots of brown Muslims are still breathing Inca.

It's a Putin strategy that the US has grasped wholeheartedly.

"Canadian police investigate reports of gunfire at US consulate in TorontoThe Associated PressTORONTO

TORONTO (AP) — Canadian police are investigating reports that the United States consulate in downtown Toronto was hit by gunfire early on Tuesday morning.

No injuries have been reported.

Toronto police said they responded to reports at around 5:30 a.m. that someone shot a gun at the U.S. consulate.

In a post on social media, police said they were at the scene near University Avenue and Queen Street West."

Probably just kids out for some harmless frolic. 🙄

Oh, speaking of Putin, and to reinforce my already stellar TDS credentials, I think Putin had compromised T**** many years ago.
T**** is Putin's lapdog. You know, KGB and all that.

Funny you should say that a chara.

Because…

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"Where exactly were those three objectives stated together like that? Do you have the link to the briefing or speech?"

Not my job to follow up for those capable of reading themselves.

Yes, I get bloody tired of restating the same things over and over to the newest anti administration person in a thread. Especially when there are multiple threads and multiple people.

SB, Parz Legion and others have done the same.

The 3 objectives were stated day 2. But not on the usual news. They don't even cover the press conferences by the war department, do they?

From AI again:

"Around day two of "Operation Epic Fury" (March 2, 2026), Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and the Department of War outlined three primary military objectives for the conflict with Iran:

Destroy Iranian offensive missile capabilities: This includes the destruction of Iran's ballistic missile stockpiles and launchers.

Cripple the Iranian Navy: A focus on destroying naval assets and security infrastructure to prevent interference with regional maritime traffic, such as in the Strait of Hormuz.

Permanently deny Iran nuclear weapons: Ensuring that the regime can never obtain or produce a nuclear weapon.
CBS News 8
CBS News 8"

You won't find this stuff going to the "usual sources".
Watch the news conferences. Fox covers them live. 😱

By the way, that is not domestic.. that is the ongoing TDS flowing daily and with EVERY presidential action taken. So I view it as continuous and worth pointing out.

Again old James is at least honest about it. 🙂

Want a good source of current war information on the web? Try Iran International. Viewed as liberal by Rasmussen. But much better than CNN, MSDNC, ABC, CBS …. Many times they get if faster than Fox. 😱

Iran international:

"Pakistan deploys navy to escort vessels in Middle East

The Pakistani navy says its warships will accompany the country's commercial ships in the Middle East to safeguard the steady supply of energy to Pakistan.

It said two vessels belonging to the national shipping company are already being escorted, sharing photos on social media showing a naval warship sailing alongside an oil tanker carrying crude."

Iran international:

"Iran's Army says it launched drone attacks against Haifa fuel tanks

Iran's army air force says it launched suicide drone attacks targeting fuel tanks in Haifa, Israel, in response to recent attacks on Iranian oil depots."

No confirmation of attacks by Israeli sources. Above multiple hours old now.

Just something interesting.

"Before the U.S.-Israel war with Iran began around February 28, 2026, crude oil was trading at approximately
$
72
$
7
2
to
$
73
$
7
3
per barrel. "

Yahoo finance this very moment:
$85.19 USD per barrel

Down a lot from the $120 USD during initial panic.

But things change.

Now this what AI states as successes so far by both sides. I notice a few stated successes by both sides not listed. Obviously for my side, the "sinking" Iranian Navy.

"In the current conflict between the U.S.-Israel coalition and Iran (referred to as Operation Epic Fury), successes have been reported by both sides across military, political, and economic fronts as of March 10, 2026.

U.S. and Israeli Successes

The coalition has achieved significant operational and strategic goals through an intensive aerial and surgical strike campaign.
The Economist
The Economist
+1

Degradation of Missile and Drone Capabilities: According to military reports, roughly 80% of Iran's missile launchers have been wiped out. Ballistic missile launches are reportedly down by 86%, and drone attacks have decreased by 73% since the start of the conflict.

Leadership Neutralization: Strikes successfully eliminated several top Iranian officials, including the former Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. Other high-ranking figures from the IRGC, Basij militia, and Quds Force were also killed in the initial waves.

Nuclear and Infrastructure Sabotage: Command centers, dual-use nuclear facilities, and critical infrastructure like oil refineries and desalination plants have been heavily damaged or destroyed.

Air Superiority: The coalition has maintained dominant air superiority, illustrated by the first air-to-air kill in over 40 years for the Israeli Air Force when an F-35 shot down an Iranian Yak-130.

Regional Defensive Alignment: Partners like Jordan, Bahrain, and Kuwait have actively participated in defense, intercepting dozens of Iranian missiles and drones.
Al Jazeera
Al Jazeera
+7

Iranian Successes

Despite heavy losses, Iran has claimed success in its strategy of asymmetric warfare and economic disruption.
Al Jazeera
Al Jazeera
+1

Economic Disruption: Iran has effectively halted commercial shipping through the Strait of Hormuz through deterrent threats and force, choking approximately 20% of the world's energy flow. This has contributed to crude oil prices surging past $100 USD a barrel.

Cost War Victory: Analysts note that Iran is "winning the cost war" by forcing the U.S. and allies to use expensive interceptors against low-cost "shard" drones, rapidly depleting Western interceptor stockpiles.

Regional Reach: Iran has successfully executed retaliatory strikes against U.S. bases and allies in Bahrain, Qatar, Iraq, and Kuwait, inflicting limited but persistent damage to maintain pressure.

Intelligence and Propaganda: Tehran has utilized a spy-for-hire network to film and target sensitive Israeli sites like the Nevatim airbase and Haifa port. It also claims to have captured American soldiers, though the U.S. dismisses these reports as propaganda.

Political Continuity: Despite the death of Ali Khamenei, the regime quickly named his son, Mojtaba Khamenei, as the new Supreme Leader, signaling a determination to continue existing policies."

@SBminisguy

The decline in launches could reflect several things — destroyed launchers, disrupted logistics, or simply conserving missiles for a longer conflict.

Tunnel complexes and underground facilities are also notoriously difficult to eliminate completely from the air. Thus, collapsing entrances doesn't necessarily destroy the system inside.

@35thOVI

You've said the objectives were clearly stated on day two, but the list you posted came from an AI summary. I was asking where they were actually stated by the administration. If you are saying it's "Not my job to follow up…" then, in debate terms, that's refusing to support a claim.

If they were formally stated on day two, there should be a transcript somewhere. That would settle the question pretty quickly.

@inacavart77

No smart military (or negotiator) states their complete objectives for any operation. Nor do they tell the media the "absolute truth—" that latter would be the same as FedEx all your plans to the enemy, especially with todays so-called "objective" journalists.

One can, however, intelligently understand what's going on and glean *some* objectives from the same.

Note that the US military attacks have been almost 90% (or more) against solely military targets. Israel is the one targeting the "civilian" regime— quite effectively.

One can determine from this that the US is operating on a "physical" threat basis, whereas Israel is following up with the "political" and "economic" threat basis as well.

So, from this we see that the US is very much dedicated to removing the IRGC's ability to make war on US allies and US citizens, military, and other interests in the region. For the record, this isn't 1930's Germany or Japan. Those two nations had highly competent and even motivated engineers and manufacturers. Iran has neither. Oh, sure, they have some fanatical engineers and factory workers. But most are there so as to not have their families tortured to death by the IRGC. You don't do good work, much less your best work, in those conditions. You do what will satisfy your handlers (who are too ignorant to understand any of it). And we can see that with Iran's so-called "precision" munitions, which, if they aren't just blasted out of the sky, appear to have no accurate targeting capability whatsoever.
The same is true of their air and naval equipment— it's all old and obsolete, or made by Russia (which can't seem to accurately target anything in Ukraine, either) or China (whose stuff is only now being tested in an actual combat footing, and failing miserably). Iran has no functional ability to make reliable, durable, high-performing military materiel of any note. They can make a lot of crap, but that ability too is not hard to degrade— especially as the workers don't want to be there because *they* at least, have no desire for martyrdom, and prefer a spouse at home to 72 whatevers in Paradise.

So the above is fairly obvious. What other objectives might be in place, NOBODY here knows. And especially NOBODY in the MSM. But it will all be based on the objective of not leaving behind an insane regime capable of hurting the US or our allies, or even really anyone else.

As for how long this will take, a lot more than we'd all like, but a whole lot less than the detractors say. I do not predict things which are impossible to predict.

On a side note, the price of oil today dropped to $83 USD a barrel as of earlier this AM. So that whole panic appears to have collapsed.

Incavart

"You've said the objectives were clearly stated on day two, but the list you posted came from an AI summary. I was asking where they were actually stated by the administration. If you are saying it's "Not my job to follow up…" then, in debate terms, that's refusing to support a claim.

If they were formally stated on day two, there should be a transcript somewhere. That would settle the question pretty quickly."

I furnished the information. My God! look up the transcript yourself. I watch the press conferences. Maybe you should too.

But, since I am a martyr to my own generosity…

Pete's own words.

"To the media outlets and political left screaming "endless wars," stop. This is not Iraq. This is not endless. I was there for both. Our generation knows better and so does this President. He called the last 20 years of nation building wars dumb, and he's right. This is the opposite.

This operation is a clear, devastating, decisive mission: destroy the missile threat, destroy the navy, no nukes. Israel has clear missions as well for which we are grateful, capable partners, as we've said since the beginning, capable partners are good partners, unlike so many of our traditional allies who wring their hands and clutch their pearls, hemming and hawing about the use of force."
So let's see if you consider this settled or continue to deny. (My bet the later).

You may now shout my praises!😏

Subject: Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine Hold a Press Briefing > U.S. Department of War > Transcript | U.S. Department of War


link

You can believe, or watch CNN, ABC, Maddow and The View. They will give you the packaged anti Administration views.. 🙄

You can also get those views from most collage liberal arts professors too. 😏

Oil at 80 a barrel Parz.

@35thOVI

That helps — it confirms the three broad objectives were stated publicly. The question I was raising was what those objectives mean operationally, because each of them is broad enough to imply a much larger campaign.

The existence of war aims is one question. Whether those war aims are precise enough to define an endpoint is another.

But at least were going in the right direction here with actual military discussion. I would still be interested in seeing you address Cuprum2's points, which present a coherent military theory even if you disagree with them.

@ Parzival

I agree that no military publishes its full operational plan. My question was more about the strategic endpoint.

"Destroy the missile threat" and "no nukes" are broad objectives, but they don't clearly define what success looks like or when the campaign ends.

Your post points out that objectives are partly unknown, that outsiders must infer strategy and the campaign may take time which implicitly confirms that the war aims are not as simple or settled as some posters were claiming.