"So does the Iranian regime finally fall THIS TIME?" Topic

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"8 minutes ago
Iranians aiding strikes for regime change, former Israel official says

Former Israeli National Security Advisor Eyal Hulata told CNN that large numbers of Iranians on the ground are cooperating with Israel's campaign—not as recruited agents but as regime opponents who requested assistance after being massacred in protests two months ago, framing the operations as mutual aid for their freedom.

"There is intelligence capabilities that are very exquisite and superior both for Israel and the United States. It's not just Israeli intelligence participating in this. And the level of penetration into Iran is significant, by the way," Hulata said.

"But there is another element in this, and this is the participation of the Iranian people. The Iranian people themselves understand the magnitude of the opportunity that is here, and they're actively participating in ways that we haven't seen before in providing this kind of information. So some of those targets while they're in hiding are being recognized by the people on the ground, who do understand that this is important for their ability to prevail over time, and they provide ample information about the whereabouts of these officers, about their hiding places, where they're at and then, of course, the intelligence community, either Israeli American, needs to cross check this," he added.

"We don't just, you know, bomb without a good understanding of where this is, but we are able to do this when you get those important tips on real time. And the proof at the end is in the list of pictures that you put back there in the screen. It's proven very effective," Hulata added."

Hope this is the beginning of the end for these islamists …

@dogtail

I stand corrected -- they have enough information to say, "We THINK that's a ship going to maybe Australia or Taiwan. Shoot it! Oh, it was headed to Thailand? Whatever…"

VDH discussing European "schizophrenia" on the Iran War: YouTube link

Ouch, this going to hurt… ;-)
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11 hours ago
Operation Epic Fury just escalated as the U.S. deploys the A-10 Warthog against Iran, bringing a new level of aerial dominance. With unmatched loitering ability, versatile weapons, and anti-drone precision, the Warthog can strike ground and naval targets while supporting America's broader strategy. CENTCOM…

youtube.com/watch?v=eDnbenFdyAs

If anybody wanted a proof that there is no strategy, and that US are following blindly Israel:

link (Trump truthsocial)

The strike by Israel and counter-strike by Iran is going to cause one of the biggest economical crisis of the last 100y. This field is 20% of the world natural gas production, and now it no more a temporary issue, Qatar just announced massive damage.

And threatening to completely destroy it, is not threatening Iran but the whole world, that's a complete madman speech. This is Saddam Hussein level of stupidity…

Russia is currently opening all the champagne they had left.

Why Attack Iran Now?

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Two Iran Wars, Two Theories of Victory and the Lessons for a Distant Pacific

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What Looks Like Resilience in Iran Is Its Collapse Plan

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Armand

Subject: Trump says Iran building deeper nuclear site protected by granite


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On a german newspaper website a reporter said that this ongoing war is considered a religious war even in parts of the military, declaring that 200 soldiers made complaints about officers who named it a crusade. Is there any truth in that?

Israel and Trump not in lock step? But I thought you told me Israel was leading him by the nose. 😳 seems not. Of courses Israel says otherwise. Either way, I don't think I'd hit Qatar's oil site again if I were Iran. But Irans leadership are whoever they happen to be this morning. 😉

"In a post on Truth Social, Trump stated that the United States "knew nothing about this particular attack," and added that Qatar "was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it." Trump explained that because "Iran did not know" Qatar was not involved in the attack, Iran "unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar's LNG Gas facility."

"Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars Gas Field in Iran," Trump said. "A relatively small section of the whole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack and the country of Qatar was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen."

"Unfortunately, Iran did not know this, or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South Pars attack, and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar's LNG Gas facility," Trump added. "NO MORE ATTACK WILL BE MADE BY ISRAEL pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South Pars Field unless Iran unwisely decides to attack a very innocent, in this case, Qatar – In which instance the United States of America, with or without the help or consent of Israel, will massively blow up the entirety of the South Pars Gas Field at an amount of strength and power that Iran has never seen or witnessed before."
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@35thOVI
as we don´t know if anything PotUS is saying is meant to confuse the enemy and therefore only a ruse, it simply doesn´t matter what he says or posts

Dogtail

Right, he may or may not mean it. Like invasion of Greenland. Canada our beloved 51st state… etc.

But on this one, I myself believe he will take out the oil fields, if they hit those again in Qatar. Especially when he criticizes Israel.

I've said before our goals and Israel's goals are probably not all the same. We may stop before Israel does. Who knows.

Even though we are the big Satan, Iran wants to destroy the little Satan more. For now.

In praising the bejabbers out of Hegseth, you neglected to mention that he was a weekend opinion host on Fox News. 👍

On a side-note, please send your condolences to the widows of Mohammad Mokhber. Dead man walking. I mean hiding .

Subject: Tehran will assert stronger role in Strait of Hormuz after war, adviser says | Iran International


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John he was? Were you under the assumption that I watch it all the time?

Please give us a synopsis of what he said.

I'm impressed if you are serious, changing those Morning Joe viewing habits. 😉

What??!! 😳 and they believe the Nuclear threat and enrichment are real and MUST be stopped. 😱😳

Subject: NATO Secretary General Rutte: Allies Are 'Collectively' Working On Path To Reopen Strait of Hormuz – YouTube


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@35thOVI
Is Mohammad Mokhber even a legal military target?

What what what???!! 😳

But how is this possible??? Did Trump break that chain Netanyahu had in the ring in his nose again.

Someone on TMP said that their goals and ours may not be all the same. Who was he? 🤔

"9 minutes ago
US, Israeli war aims in Iran differ, Gabbard says

US Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard said on Thursday that American and Israeli objectives in Iran are not the same.

"The objectives… laid out by the president are different from the objectives… of the Israeli government," she said.

Gabbard said Israel has focused on targeting Iran's leadership, while US goals include destroying missile capabilities and naval forces."

Gabbard saying this, is far from definitive currently. 😏 But I happen to believe this one.

John he was? Were you under the assumption that I watch it all the time?

Please give us a synopsis of what he said.

I'm impressed if you are serious, changing those Morning Joe viewing habits. 😉

Trump thought that being a talk show weekend host sufficiently qualified him. After all, Trump has hosted WrestleMania!

I don't watch Morning Joe. Sorry to disappoint you.

"@35thOVI
Is Mohammad Mokhber even a legal military target?"

Well he is an
"adviser to Iran's leadership"

To Israel, they all are targets in the government. But to be honest, fair is fair. Iran and her proxies have been killing Israelis of any sex and age, indiscriminately for decades.

John,

CNN News Central? Or just not up at that hour? 😉

IN:

"The leaders of six democratic countries — United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Japan — release a joint statement condemning Iran's closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

"We condemn in the strongest terms recent attacks by Iran on unarmed commercial vessels in the Gulf, attacks on civilian infrastructure, including oil and gas installations, and the de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz by Iranian forces," say the world leaders.

They call on Iran "to cease immediately its threats, laying of mines, drone and missile attacks and other attempts to block the Strait to commercial shipping."

Without mentioning Israel — which has attacked major Iranian oil and gas installations— they also call for an immediate end to "attacks on civilian infrastructure, including oil and gas installations."

They do not commit to sending military forces, but do "express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait."
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IN:

"Retired Lt Gen Keith Kellogg called for maximum-effort US naval and air escorts to clear Iranian missiles, drones and mines from the Strait of Hormuz shipping lanes, comparing the operation to past "thunder runs" in Baghdad and Operation Earnest Will to test and defeat resistance.

"Put aircraft above this shipping lane. You have escort ships go there as well. Get a couple ships through there, and you're good to go," he told NewsMax on Wednesday.

"The first couple of times you're going to get some type of hostile action… there's risk… but we have the capacity and the capability to punch through there," he added. "It's sort of like what we did in Baghdad… after about the third or fourth thunder run, it was pretty easy."

"I hate to say it, but it's, you know, kind of, my son told me, kind of telling your chief, it's sort of like Whack a Mole. Everyone is there. You just kill them. And I was asked that today on another program, just have to kill them all, and sooner or later, they get a break. You know, you start at a very senior level. You keep working your way down, and finally you're gonna have people say, I want to do the job," former 82nd Airborne commander said."

@35thOVI

You're shifting away from the substance.

Whether I've supported five policies, ten policies, or none has nothing to do with whether this approach is strategically coherent. I'm not required to provide a complete alternative spanning decades in order to question whether the current method works. The burden is to explain how the approach you're defending leads to a defined outcome.

What you've provided is:
1. a history of hostility
2. a list of incidents
3. and a description of ongoing actions

What's still missing is the mechanism that connects those actions to a stable result rather than continued escalation. If your position is that this is simply a recurring use-of-force model—"rinse and repeat"—then that's fine. But that's not resolution, it's management.

And that's the question you still haven't answered.

You've described the threat in detail. You still haven't explained what the plan is or how this produces a stable outcome. Saying "others answered it" isn't an answer. What is the mechanism? If someone has answered the question, feel free to restate it.

Approving of what's happening—or disliking the target—is a completely different mindset from having a well-thought-out plan. The absence of a plan is the definition of a strategic blunder, whether or not it ultimately works out.

I accept that you don't have an answer. What I reject are post hoc attempts to relabel impulse as planning.

Too bad we live in such a Left-polarized world right now. It's truly a bizarre period of history during with the Western Left has spent decades tearing apart the moral and governance foundations of their societies resulting in nihilistic paralysis and decay.

The goal has always been to topple the system and replace it with their utopian vision of Socialism, and they use any "anti-Western" movements, memes and tools to do this, including the hugely damaging Red-Green alliance between the Left and Islamists.

The Red-Green alliance is at the core of the continued mass immigration into Europe from muslim countries. This was an opportunistic outgrowth of NATO's war in Libya which caused the first destabilizing mass migration flows. See, normal migrants and refugee flows before this time were typically much smaller and would get absorbed into the system and were more not generally a large cohesive block.

But the mass migration waves from North Africa and the Middle East (also the result of Obama's Wars) are different. These migrants hold their religious identity higher than any national identity, they are organized and willing to participate in large numbers. So the Reds latched onto them as a new migrant power block they can use to attack their own broader society with, spinning social friction into proof of the structural racism and legacy of evil colonialism with which to attack their own society and civil order.

The Greens (for the Green flag of Islam) are perfectly open to this since it serves their needs also -- they reject ALL of the Reds' world view and agenda and are using them to gain and exerise power. So much so that countries in Europe are afraid of angering them -- so Grooming Gangs get quietly shuffled around, and energetic islamist rallies screaming DEATH to whoever get a police protection detail from counter protests and a retired Brit who posts about it gets jailed. And this effects their defense and foreign policy -- they will not help police the Hormuz or confront Iran for fear of angering this block. Ironically, Iran is the single biggest killer of muslims in the world (and China is #2).

And what happened to the last successful Red-Green Alliance? Iran happened. The Reds used the Greens to help topple the Shah, the Greens took over and butchered the Reds and imposed a regressive and tyrannical theocracy on the nation.

Anyways, hope you enjoyed this little walk through history and meta-events!

Tango,

Good articles. 👍 Especially 1 and 3. They say much of what SB, Legion, myself and a few others have said in multiple posts. Hope people read them.

One thing the 2nd did not take into consideration, is the potential for taking Kharg Island completely or via a takeover and the taking out of the oil production fields of Iran. They can demand Chinese money till the cows come home, but no oil, no money. In addition, no money to rebuild and the people, but worse for them, the army turning against them.

So far, that is not the U.S. strategy. But cannot say Israel is not and has not started it.

Incavart, read Tango's articles.

OVI +1 On all you post !

I don't watch Morning Joe. Sorry to disappoint you.

Nor do I or probably anyone with common sense. IIRC, yes they are cutting Joe's hours for his "show" …

They do not commit to sending military forces, but do "express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait."

I think they may be realizing they could be late to the party. And won't get a piece of the action … even it a lot of the heavy lifting is still going on. Plus they may need the USA to help them out again at some time in the future. Yes … they may need the USA's help … again …

Why would that be ? Well the USA is the most powerful piece on the board. This campaign plus the earlier strike burying their nuke sites a few months back. Clearly demonstrates the USA has the tech, capabilities, military expertise and most importantly the will to end this medieval islamist regime. And 80+% of Iran's Persians want these butchers gone.

Also demonstrates who one of the USA's best ally in the region … and may be even the world – Israel/IDF/Mossad, etc.

@35thOVI

If the answer exists, it shouldn't require outsourcing.

I'm sure they claim 18.😏

"A US F-35 fighter jet made an emergency landing at US air base in the Middle East after it was struck by what is believed to be Iranian fire, sources tell
@halbritz
&
@OrenCNN
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This would be the first time Iran has hit a US aircraft (in this case a stealth, 5th generation fighter jet) since the war started.

The F-35 was "flying a combat mission over Iran" when it was forced to make an emergency landing, per Capt. Tim Hawkins, a spox for CENTCOM.

"The aircraft landed safely, & the pilot is in stable condition," Hawkins added. "This incident is under investigation."
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"The Islamic Republic of Iran's judiciary on Thursday ignored a U.S. State Department warning along with pleas from elite Iranian-American wrestlers to not execute 19-year-old champion wrestler Saleh Mohammadi for protesting against the Khamenei regime.

Reports say Mohammadi was killed in a public hanging seen as a barbaric move by the Iranian regime to snuff out the ongoing movement seeking to topple it, according to Iranian American human rights activists and dissidents."

I'm am shocked as you are! 😏

OVI +1

SBm +1

If anybody wanted a proof that there is no strategy, and that US are following blindly Israel:

Again most spin and propaganda than facts. Maybe a little more research could be in order. Not anti-Israel and US, etc. personal feelings …

So many posts here IMO and others is based on bad reporting and personal feelings compounded with limited logic and reason if I may say … With only limited ideas of how geopolitical and military actions operate in reality. Which includes most of the media almost everywhere. All colored by again bias …

On a german newspaper website a reporter said that this ongoing war is considered a religious war even in parts of the military, declaring that 200 soldiers made complaints about officers who named it a crusade. Is there any truth in that?

More fake news … No US soldiers will not follow legal orders as there have been none issued. Or will be … Plus we all took an oath. To violate that could end up being handled by the UCMJ, etc.

Just because one does not like a legal lawful order, they still are required to follow it. It's the military not a democracy. Anyone who served understands and knows that. Once again, another media story with is inaccurate, false, biased agenda and narrative driven. Some may need to learn how to ID such drivel.

Inca77 … did you see the briefing that the SoW and JCS Chairman gave today ? If anyone did, I'd think that should clear up many if not all questions posed here. Plus, the DNI being questioned/grilled/interrogated by Congress was enlightening as well. Which was also going on too. In both cases they were very opened without violating OPSEC/letting the cats out of the bag …

I'm sure many in the media will find ways to obfuscate, spin, etc., with their standard agenda and narrative drive version of reporting. It is an accepted way they do things now … No one is surprised anymore. Or should be.

But really please let me know what answers you seek. I'm too old and crippled to go on a Quest for the Grail. But I'll try my best. As it seems to me, and I may be a bit biased, and come from a different list of experiences, etc. than most here. But I think I have a pretty good appreciation of the situation. What's the $64 USD dollar question ? 😎 Ok $64,000 USD with inflation … 😏

It still baffles me after all the massive amount of destruction of Iran's military assets and leadership at all levels. And it is a very successful history making ongoing campaign … How can one even venture to say it is failing or will fail. The game is still afoot. And the one team has a huge point advantage on the board. At this point all Iran's leaders can say we are not going to give into the USA's conditions to end the war. They seem they would rather die for the god. Like the IJFs in the PTO in WWII.

So the campaign will continue. The enemy must suffer severe attrition and will to resist be broken. Nothing new there … If they'd rather die … OK … we have lots of ordinance and making more …

Legion +1

Watch the actual briefings, live, ON FOX (do any other MSM broadcast them live?). 😱 like hefting a cross at a vampire. 😉

Anyway. Now I think Iran is reading my posts here. Tolls were my idea! 🤬 as the holy book clearly states:

Steal not the ideas of the Unbeliever, least ye lose 10 virgins in paradise!

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"Iran is considering charging transit fees on ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, a lawmaker said on Thursday, as officials in Tehran stepped up rhetoric over the strategic waterway after this week's attacks on energy sites in the Persian Gulf.

Somayeh Rafiei said lawmakers are pursuing a bill under which countries using the strait for shipping, energy transit and food supplies would be required to pay tolls and taxes to Iran, framing it as compensation for providing security along the route.

"In the event that the Strait of Hormuz is used as a secure route for ship traffic, energy transit and food supply, countries will be required to pay tolls and taxes to the Islamic Republic of Iran," Rafiei said.

She also said countries should pay what she described as a security tax in return for Iran maintaining regional security.

The proposal came as senior Iranian officials suggested the war could be used to redefine Tehran's position in the waterway after the conflict ends.

Mohammad Mokhber said one of the most important opportunities created by the war was the possibility of reshaping Iran's role in the Strait of Hormuz.

"After the imposed war, by defining a new regime for the Strait of Hormuz, Iran will move from being under sanctions to a powerful position in the region and the world," Mokhber said.

He added: "By using the strategic position of the Strait of Hormuz, we can sanction them and not allow their ships to pass through this waterway."

The comments followed a sharp escalation earlier this week when Israel struck Iran's South Pars gas field, one of the country's most important energy sites, in an attack that pushed oil and gas prices higher.

Iran retaliated by targeting energy infrastructure across the Persian Gulf, including strikes on facilities in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, widening concerns that the conflict could spread further across the region's oil and gas network.

That escalation also triggered a stronger response from Arab states. Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan said pressure from Iran would "backfire politically and morally" and added that Riyadh reserved the right to take military action if needed."

Unfortunately "The Australian" requires a subscription. But front page.

A gentle and peace loving regime where all voices are heard. 😏

Subject: Arsen Ostrovsky on X: "'Iran's Lost Generation: The Voices Were Silenced With Bullets!' Powerful front page of the @australian newspaper, with lead story by @camstewarttheoz on the innocent faces indivisible to human rights activists. t.co/gXUElOq13n / X


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"Too bad we live in such a Left-polarized world right now."

When a right conservative government (US) allied to another right conservative government (Israel) is attacking another right conservative government (Iran yeah but different god), supported by another right conservative government (Russia), I don't see why you are complaining…

"Iran is considering charging transit fees on ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, a lawmaker said on Thursday, as officials in Tehran stepped up rhetoric over the strategic waterway after this week's attacks on energy sites in the Persian Gulf.

Interesting pivot to claim "victory" by Iran over something that was never a US goal. The US has been clear that it's goal is to destroy Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs and its ability to project power. The US never stated it wanted to block shipping through the Straights of Hormuz, that's was Iran's strategy to put heat on countries to pressure the US to stop the attacks. And now they claim ransom to allow ships to pass -- without really having the means to enforce it. Sure, seems they can develop an of what a ship is to develop and attack since commercial ships transmit ID signals, and maybe this is cowing some shipping firms to pay the Dane Geld. That's on them. Like to see how the US can disrupt such payments -- will they use China as the go-between? Demand payment be made in Amazon Gift Cards, or pallets of cash like Obama paid to them in tribute? Dunno.

@greatpatton

When a right conservative government (US) allied to another right conservative government (Israel) is attacking another right conservative government (Iran yeah but different god), supported by another right conservative government (Russia), I don't see why you are complaining…

Not my point, and of course don't agree with your characterization. My point is that the Left has been so busy and successful tearing down society to pave the way for societal collapse and reconstruction under their version of Socialism (broadly speaking also includes the technocratic Socialism of the WEF/Davos/Globalists whose economic policies resemble actual economic fascism), that Europe no longer has the capacity to ACT for itself.

Gelded, neutered, cowed, collapsing, killing itself by mass immigration from fundamentally incompatible cultures with no effort to assimilate them into various European cultures. This wave of immigrants is strong in its views, loud, pushy and violent and IS filling into the social/political vacumn caused by the Left's hollowing out of their societies. This leads to self serving politicians who want to court the islamic vote as they lose ground with native voters, and so they attack the US' actions in public though in private they know it needs to be done.

That's what I mean. And when the Greens take over they will get rid of all opposition as they did in Iran.

Hi Legion 4,

Inca77 … did you see the briefing that the SoW and JCS Chairman gave today? If anyone did, I'd think that should clear up many if not all questions posed here. Plus, the DNI being questioned/grilled/interrogated by Congress was enlightening as well. Which was also going on too. In both cases they were very open without violating OPSEC/letting the cats out of the bag …

Secretary Hegseth's position:

The current campaign is focused on systematically degrading Iran's military capabilities—specifically its missile infrastructure, naval forces, and any pathways to a nuclear weapon.

Operations are ongoing and adaptive, with U.S. forces identifying and striking targets as they emerge. Progress is measured in terms of reduced capability and operational success, rather than a fixed timeline.

The objective is to weaken Iran to the point where it can no longer pose a meaningful threat, with the determination of success left to executive judgment based on evolving conditions.

If that is the plan being articulated at the top level, then the concern is not misunderstanding—it is that the plan itself is underdefined. What is being described is a set of targets and ongoing operations, not a clearly defined end state.

Secretary Hegseth's statement that "we'll know when we've achieved what we need" is not a victory condition—it is discretionary. If the strategy is sound, there should be a clear explanation of how these actions produce a stable outcome, not simply continued degradation. That is the gap I am pointing to.

The DNI hearing speaks to threat assessment, not strategy. Intelligence can justify concern—it doesn't, on its own, justify that this particular approach leads to a stable resolution. That's still the missing piece.

The military is executing its function effectively. The issue appears to lie at the policy level, where objectives and intelligence may not be fully aligned. The military enforces policy; it is not intended to generate policy through escalation against hardened targets.

What you've described is operational success combined with a theory of attrition. That is not the same as a clearly defined political end state. Destroying assets and leadership demonstrates capability, not resolution. "Watch the briefing" is not, in itself, an answer; if the strategy is clear, it should be possible to state it directly.

The assertion that the enemy must be broken through continued attrition is not self-proving. It is a coercive theory, not a demonstrated outcome. This is the gap I have been pointing to: tactical success is being used as a substitute for explaining how this concludes in something more stable than continued escalation.

It is reasonable that we do not have full visibility. What is not reasonable is to treat that lack of visibility as proof that a coherent plan exists.

While he is having an open meeting today with the Japanese PM:

No, he is NOT a smarmy typical diplomat. He does not care about your feelings.
His priority is the United States. Very typical of Winston Churchill, whose priority was the British Empire. As it should have been.

You didn't vote for him, you will of course be offended.

(Japanese Reporter question)

Reporter: Japan and US are very good friends, but one question, why didn't you tell US allies in Europe and Asia, like Japan, about the war before attacking Iran? So We are very confused about, we Japanese citizens—

Trump: Well, one thing, you don't want to signal too much, you know? When we go in, we went in very hard, and we didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Okay? Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor? Okay, right?

He's asking me. No, you believe in surprise, I think, much more so than us, and we had a surprise, and we did. And because of that surprise, we knocked out— the first two days, we probably knocked out 50% of what we, and much more, than we anticipated doing. So if I go and tell everybody about it, there's no longer a surprise, right?

"Secretary Hegseth's statement that "we'll know when we've achieved what we need" is not a victory condition—it is discretionary. If the strategy is sound, there should be a clear explanation of how these actions produce a stable outcome, not simply continued degradation. That is the gap I am pointing to."

That would signify to me, they have a plan. But that plan is a "need to know only". Not for you, not for Legion and not for me.

Why tell your opponent what your ultimate goal is?

US "We want to control Kharg Island"
Iranian leadership: we must send the guard and reinforcements to the Island!!

US "We want to control the oil fields"
Iranian leadership: we must send the guard and reinforcements to the oil fields!!

US "we want regime change"
Iranian Leadership: we must kill all we think oppose us!! We must hide in the deepest bunkers!!

And on and on.

We don't know what the U.S. ultimate aim is. We sure as He#l don't know Israel's. Why should we? Who are we?

Yes, I am a vote for their next election. But I still will be. So they have lost nothing.
Were You? If not, they have lost nothing by your unhappiness.

More to follow.

Incavart

I said this campaign may be deterrent only.

Now I'll ask a question. Can deterrent be a strategy in itself?

A simple yes or no.

Very easy not even requiring you to go through page upon page of this thread to re-articulate points that you've made earlier in the thread to other people questioning what you have written.

Now addressing those of you buying into the msm narrative that Donald Trump is losing his base due to this "forever war" of not even 4 weeks. A war like we have never seen before! Worse than Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, wW1 and WW2!! The darkest day in the history of mankind!!

From the MSM. 😳

To: Darrell Reel <reeldarrell631@gmail.com>
Subject: (((Harry Enten))) on X: "There's no break in MAGA. Trump's approval with MAGA GOP is literally 100%. 90% of MAGA GOP approve of US military action in Iran. Those who disapprove of Trump are not MAGA at this point. Importantly: MAGA makes up the same share of voters as it did when Trump won in 2024. t.co/LqMRHm8t1B / X


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It's been awhile since i studied strategery, but somewhere along the line I picked up this idea that the FIRST thing you want to do is eliminate the enemy's "field forces" which then allows you to impose your peace terms upon him. Seems to me that is what Pete Hegseth is doing, and quite successfully.

Once the Iranian regime is disarmed and lacking effective leadership (and we are plainly getting there), THEN all of the complex questions about regime change and Kurdish independence and the return of the Shah and who controls Kharg island and what happens to the nuclear material etc. etc. etc. can and will be addressed.

DOC "THIS is DR EVIL.. I mean TRUMP and he can't have a PLAN!! NO NO NO 😡🤬

If the U.S. is the Great Satan and Israel the Little Satan, then Donald Trump is the "Great Greater Greatest most Evil Nasty Stinky Smelly Satan of all times ….Infinity!!" 😛

😉

Now in certain organizations, an "escape" like this, would find Mojtaba "sleeping with the fishes" or maybe succumbing to a "Fredo" a bit later.

But if he really is in Moscow. Maybe he's headed to the front lines instead. 💥 ☠️

"Mojtaba Khamenei reportedly escaped a massive U.S.-Israeli airstrike on February 28, 2026, by stepping into a garden moments before the attack. The strike, part of Israel's Operation Epic Fury, targeted the supreme leader's compound in Tehran and killed his father, Ali Khamenei, along with several other family members.
jpost.com

Details of his survival emerged via leaked audio from Mazaher Hosseini, head of protocol for the supreme leader's office, who described the event as "God's will":
thefederal.com

The Escape: Mojtaba had been with his father but left the building "to do something" in the yard.
The Strike: At 9:32 a.m. local time, three missiles hit the compound, destroying the upper floor where Mojtaba lived.

Injuries: While his wife and son were killed instantly, Mojtaba reportedly survived with only a minor leg injury.

Current Status and Speculation
Since the attack, Mojtaba has not been seen in public, leading to conflicting reports about his condition. While Iranian officials maintain he is leading the regime, other sources, including U.S. President Donald Trump, have suggested he may be more severely injured or even dead. Unconfirmed reports also claim he may have been transferred to Moscow for medical treatment"

US weighs military reinforcements as Iran war enters possible new phase

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Armand

I don't see why you are complaining…

I'm not … its about time the US and IDF removed this plague on that region and the world … What's not to like … The islamists don't do this the easy way. So we'll convince them … even if the entire islamist regime, IRGC and Basji have to die. Again what's not to like ?

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US weighs military reinforcements as Iran war enters possible new phase

That is not rare … as the campaign progresses, situations evolve, etc. Nothing really to be upset about.

If that is the plan being articulated at the top level, then the concern is not misunderstanding—it is that the plan itself is underdefined. What is being described is a set of targets and ongoing operations, not a clearly defined end state.

I'm don't see it that way. And again OPSEC … The enemy [nor the leaky media] does no need to know what we determine is the end …

From my standpoint, it seems to me having done this sort of thing in FTXs, schools, classes, etc. at Bn and Bde level.

The planning has been done and is evolving based of the situation on the battlefield. It seems to me. This is how the Pentagon operations will be execute.

Wipe out any assets of the IRGC, Basij. Including leadership, launch positions with weapons in battery, supply and manufacturing points …

The IDF Spec Ops and probably CIA, SF, etc. will do the classic insurgency mission. E.g. As was done in WWII in the PI, etc. And of course with the Montagnards, Hmong, Popular/Region forces, etc. being lead by Spec Ops. And supported by US air and FA support.

We will see Iran's Kurds are most likely to be involved. The IDF is working with/on some of the locals who want to be free of islamic lunatics. I'd think this has been on going even before the first strikes. And has since escalated as Iran's leadership, IRGC, Basji, etc. have been significantly reduced.

Iran's actual military is not the IRGC and Basji. These two groups are likened to the SS and Gestapo. The Iran military will revolt being led by some non-regime GENs, etc. Supported with weapons, training, etc. by the IDF, CIA, etc. After Iran's islamists have suffered heavy losses.

This is a lesson learned in Iraq. We will not deactivate the military and its leaders as happened in Iraq. We will work with those as had been eventually done in Iraq. But should have happened in Iraq.

Yes much work still to be done. To do anything else will just start the cycle all over again. A paradigm sometimes called, "Mowing the lawn", by the IDF.

An interim government will be put in place. With support by the actual Persians. And a government by the people will eventually become a reality.

Of course none of this will come to light until it is happening and ongoing …

I don't know if all that answered your concerns though ?

I love the last paragraph. On the job 1 week.

"We are promoting you to commander of the division! Congratulations"
"Cannnnnnnnnnnn I just clean the latrines instead please?"

May get to the point:
"we are appointing a new commander. Each of you will pick a straw from my hand. Short straw gets to meet 72 virgins sometime this week. Those drawing the others get to live for another week"

"Israel's Ambassador to the United States said on Thursday that Israeli forces had carried out strikes on Iranian navy vessels in the Caspian Sea and targeted commanders and militants linked to Iran's operations in Lebanon.

"Over the past 24 hours, we hit Iranian navy boats in the Caspian Sea all the way up in the north, after the American Air Force took out their navy ships in the Gulf area in the south, we hit more Basij checkpoints so there could be more freedom of movement of the Iranians," Ambassador Yechiel (Michael) Leiter posted on X.

"We hit the commander of the Imam Hussein division, who was just on the job for a week. We see more and more of these commanders hesitant and anxious about taking command," he added.
"

The "gentle and peace loving people" at work again with their people.

"Today, Thursday, March 19, 2026, the Iranian regime carried out the public hanging of three young men in the city of Qom. These are the first officially announced executions related to the nationwide anti-government protests that began in late 2025 and escalated in January 2026.
iranhumanrights.org

The individuals executed are:
Saleh Mohammadi (19): A national wrestling champion and bronze medalist at the 2024 Saitiev Cup.
Mehdi Ghasemi.
Saeed Davoudi (21).
iranhumanrights.org

Details of the Executions
Charges: The judiciary's Mizan News Agency reported they were convicted of moharebeh ("waging war against God") for allegedly killing two State Security Force (SSF) agents, Abbas Asadi and Mohammad Ghasemi, during the January "riots".

Due Process: Human rights organizations, including Amnesty International and the Center for Human Rights in Iran, have characterized the trials as "grossly unfair," noting that confessions were reportedly obtained through torture.

Context: The hangings occurred on the eve of Nowruz (the Iranian New Year) and Eid al-Fitr. Activists warn of a potential surge in hangings as the regime continues to crack down on dissent amid ongoing regional tensions.
amnesty.ca

Reports from groups like Iran Human Rights indicate that at least 30 other individuals, including children, remain at imminent risk of execution following similar expedited trials related to the recent uprising."