"So does the Iranian regime finally fall THIS TIME?" Topic

I'm gonna say yes but it is more hope and prayer than calculation.

One hopes…

Looks like we hit the Kharg island power plant.

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Did Schumer just demand that Trump be more resolute on Iran?

Chuck Schumeron X today:

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When I talked to Secretary Rubio, I implored him to be straight with Congress and the American people about the objectives of these strikes and what comes next. Iran must never be allowed to attain a nuclear weapon but the American people do not want another endless and costly war in the Middle East when there are so many problems at home.

The administration has not provided Congress and the American people with critical details about the scope and immediacy of the threat. Confronting Iran's malign regional activities, nuclear ambitions, and harsh oppression of the Iranian people demands American strength, resolve, regional coordination, and strategic clarity. Unfortunately, President Trump's fitful cycles of lashing out and risking wider conflict are not a viable strategy.

The administration must brief Congress, including an immediate all senators classified briefing and in public testimony, to answer these vital questions. The Senate should quickly return to session and reassert its constitutional duty by passing our resolution to enforce the War Powers Act.

My prayers are with our brave American servicemembers

It requires a measured analysis to determine which is preferable.

A bad government or no government. Toppling Khamenei won't necessarily usher in any replacement, friendly or otherwise.

We have been at this a LONG time . . .

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(Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran)
(Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran)

Bomb Iran, Let's take a stand
Bomb Iran..
Our country's got a feeling,
Really hit the ceiling,
Bomb Iran (Bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran)

Went to a mosque
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Frank Chadwick in a talk at CelestiCon years ago in discussing Germany and Russi in WW2 quoted a historian who said "armies are fragile but nations are durable". Germany kicked the Russian army around over and over, but, in Frank's words, "couldn't get Russia to stay on the mat".

The Iranian regime has substantial internal issues (water, inflation, jobs, culture) and this might tip over, but it will be the internal dynamics that make the difference. Occasionally bombing something might help, but no amount of bombing can do the job without the hearts and minds thing. That's pretty well established.

Doc, whatever he did or did not do, would have been wrong in their eyes.

As far as a new regime in Iran, if that happens. I doubt it could be worse.

We will see if these are true:

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"Iranian Defence minister Amir Nasirzadeh and revolutionary guards commander Mohammed Pakpour killed in Israeli attacks -three sources familiar with the matter tell Reuters."

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"Israel's N12 News is reporting that the Israeli government believes that Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is dead.

A translated version of an N12 update from Saturday morning citing a senior Israeli official suggests that the Israelis have assessed that Khamenei is "no longer with us" after the United States and Israel launched a joint operation against the Iranian regime overnight."

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"They did not bomb Iran. They waited for Iran's entire leadership to sit down in the same room and then they bombed Iran.

Months of intelligence. Thousands of hours of surveillance and signal intercepts. One variable: the moment the Supreme Leader, the President, and senior military command gathered in a single location at the same time.

That moment was 8:15 this morning. Daylight. Every previous Israeli strike on Iran came at night. June 2025 launched in darkness. October 2024 after midnight. Iran's entire air defense doctrine is built around the assumption that Israel attacks in the dark. Israel attacked in broad daylight because the target was not infrastructure. The target was a meeting.

Reuters confirms strikes targeted Khamenei and Pezeshkian. CNN confirms months of joint US-Israeli planning. Israeli officials confirmed the strike hit the location where Iran's top officials were gathered. Whether Khamenei was moved before the strike or extracted after is the most consequential unknown on the planet right now. If before, someone inside Tehran's inner circle told Jerusalem when and where the meeting would happen. If after, the strikes hit the room and he survived. Both scenarios are catastrophic for the regime.

Because Iran's leadership now knows three things. Israel knew where they were meeting. Israel knew when they were meeting. Israel knew who would be in the room. And everything we watched over the past month, the F-22s at Ovda, the tankers at Ben Gurion, Al Udeid emptied to zero, 270 transport flights, all of it was the delivery architecture for one precision strike on one gathering.

Every future meeting of Iran's senior leadership now carries one question: does Israel know about this one too.

This is not a military operation. This is the destruction of institutional trust inside a regime. Every general who sits with Khamenei tomorrow will wonder who told Jerusalem about today. Every IRGC commander who receives a meeting summons will calculate whether attendance is duty or a death sentence. Every secure facility in Tehran has been proven insecure.

In June 2025 Israel killed 30 generals in the opening minutes. That was brute force across dispersed targets. This was a scalpel. One meeting. One moment. Months of patience.

Iran fired missiles at six countries in retaliation. Most intercepted. One civilian dead from debris in Abu Dhabi. Saudi Arabia responded by pledging all its capabilities against Iran. The Gulf coalition that did not exist yesterday exists today because Tehran built it by attacking everyone simultaneously.

Israel traded one morning of precision strikes for the permanent destruction of Iran's command cohesion.

That is not a battle. That is checkmate disguised as a first "
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This is true.

"Many Arab nations warn of 'full right to respond' after being Iran's retaliatory strikes

Arab nations are sounding off against Iran after the regime launched strikes against U.S. interests in neighboring countries in the region in retaliation for U.S.-Israeli joint strikes against Iran's leaders."

The regime now faces a potential mass popular uprising, bankruptcy, and a severe outside threat. I suspect its adherents are sticking because they will face mass retaliation if they lose control. They will soon lose control.

I have my doubts. By what I know the revolt has been put down. Will they try again with this? The Republican Guard is still strong. If they stand by the government, they will just slaughter any internal resistance again. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the major sponsor of terrorism be taken out. Just don't know if this will do it.

Also, if it falls who/what will replace the current government? Will whoever also keep supporting terrorism?

Gratten, could a new regime be any worse? Might be as bad, but would be hard pressed to be worse.

But it is up to the Iranian people to change their government. They did it in the 70's when they got this one.

…. From early AM's speech …

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To the members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the armed forces, and all of the police, I say tonight that you must lay down your weapons and have complete immunity, or in the alternative, face certain death.

So, lay down your arms, you will be treated fairly with total immunity, or you will face certain death.

Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand.

Stay sheltered, don't leave your home.

It's very dangerous outside.

Bombs will be dropping everywhere.

When we are finished, take over your government.

It will be yours to take.

This will be probably your only chance for generations.

For many years, you have asked for America's help, but you never got it.

No president was willing to do what I am willing to do tonight.

Now you have a president who is giving you what you want.

So let's see how you respond.

America is backing you with overwhelming strength and devastating force.

Now is the time to seize control of your destiny and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future that is close within your reach.

This is the moment for action.

Do not let it pass."

"The signs are growing that Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei "is no more," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says in a video statement to the Israeli public.

He says that this morning Israel eliminated IRGC commanders, senior Iranian regime officials, senior nuclear officials, and that in the coming days, "we will hit thousands of targets of the terror regime."

He says that Israel will create the conditions for the Iranian people to "free itself from the chains of dictatorship."

The operation against Iran "will continue as long as is necessary," says Netanyahu, "and stamina is necessary."

He thanks US President Donald Trump for his "historic leadership."

"He is a leader who keeps his word," says Netanyahu.

The premier says the operation will "lead to peace, true peace."
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"3 well placed sources tell me admin is prepared for up to a 30 day Iran campaign

"30 days sounds like a lot but it's really not for a small campaign like this"

also: "all airstrikes and drones… they are not putting a single troop on the ground, at all. It is not happening, there is no way it's going to happen."
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IF we are able to block their communications and also to limit the mobility of the Republican Guard, they will have a hard time dealing with scattered uprisings.

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"Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who ruled the Islamic Republic for more than three decades, has died following an Israeli strike in Tehran.

Israeli leaders confirmed Khamenei compound and offices were reduced to rubble early Saturday after a targeted strike in downtown Tehran."

A great day for the world!! A horrible day for virgin goats in paradise!! 🐐

"Reported Military Successes (February 28, 2026)

Destruction of Nuclear Infrastructure: U.S. B-2 stealth bombers reportedly "totally obliterated" or severely damaged key nuclear facilities at Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan.

Neutralization of Air Defenses: The Israeli Air Force (IAF) conducted its largest strike in history, using approximately 200 fighter jets to target Iran's missile arrays and air defense systems in western and central Iran.

Broad Target Acquisition: The IDF reported hitting "hundreds of military targets," including surface-to-surface missile launchers and anti-aircraft batteries.

Successful Interceptions: Regional allies, including Qatar, Kuwait, and the UAE, reported successfully repelling waves of retaliatory Iranian missile and drone strikes targeting their territories and U.S. bases.

Strategic Precision: Drone strikes reportedly hit a headquarters of the Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah militia in Iraq, killing at least two members.
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Strategic Impact
Iranian Leadership: Unconfirmed reports suggest Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei may have been killed or incapacitated during the strikes."

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"High-Profile Leaders Reported Killed

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei: Numerous Israeli and U.S. sources report that Iran's Supreme Leader was killed when his compound in Tehran was struck and "reduced to rubble". While Iranian state media initially claimed he was safe, he has not appeared in public since the strikes began.

Major General Mohammad Pakpour: The Commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is believed to have been killed in the initial wave of strikes.

Amir Nasirzadeh: Iran's Minister of Defense was reportedly killed alongside other top military officials.

Ali Shamkhani: A senior adviser to the Supreme Leader and former Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council was confirmed dead by Iran International.

General Mohammad Bagheri: The Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces was reportedly targeted and killed in the strikes on Tehran.
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Intelligence and Military Commanders

Reports from The Jerusalem Post and other outlets indicate that at least four senior intelligence officials were killed:
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Javad Pourhossein: Head of the foreign intelligence division.
Mohammad-Reza Bajestani: Chief of the security branch.

Ali Kheirandish: Director of counterterrorism operations.

Saeed Ehya Hamidi: Senior adviser on the war portfolio with Israel.

Other Targeted Individuals

Mojtaba Khamenei: The Supreme Leader's son and a potential successor was reportedly targeted, with some indications he may have also been killed.

President Masoud Pezeshkian: His status remains unconfirmed, though he was reportedly a target during the strikes. "

Good job if they gone… and congrats…

But…

"… could a new regime be any worse?"

Those Scum Countries as North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Rusia or Nicaragua ALWAYS can be worse… it's in their blood…

Armand

Supreme leader is at room temperature

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We waited until they were all together having a meeting and BOOM!

BOOM! +1 StoneMtnMinis

Fingers crossed

Happy Persians in Washington DC today.

Subject: Raheem J. Kassam on X: "Wow it's crazy in downtown dc right now as hundreds of Persians descend on the White House to celebrate the ouster of the Iranian Islamic regime t.co/ia83aU5O8t / X


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Khamenei may have been killed in the initial strike. This Sky News page shows what's left of his residence in Tehran, as well as a brief clip of the beginning of the attack:

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Whomever was behind the phone camera, it sounded like they were excited about what they were seeing.

As for what comes next………
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"Iranian Frigate Seen Ablaze After Being Struck In Port
The imagery represents the first confirmed heavy damage or loss of an Iranian warship as part of Operation Epic Fury and Roaring Lion."

"More than 40 senior Iranian security and regime figures were eliminated in the strikes, a senior Israeli security official told Fox News.

It was one of the largest regime "decapitation operations" conducted in modern warfare history, the official added. Israeli intelligence managed to infiltrate the Iranian security echelon, making the strikes possible, the official explained."