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doc mcb25 Feb 2026 3:16 p.m. PST

I wan to do a scenario of a Comanche tribe threatened by a prairie fire. They start backfires, but also try to move laterally to outflank it. Controlling their herd is a challenge, and there will be serious animal encounters (bison, wolves, grizzlies). Choosing whether or when to move back onto the blackened ground would be a big decision point, and terrain affects a fire differently.

Anyone know of rules for such, or a board game? This sort of thing would be as valid for the tribes of Prax in RUNEQUEST, or Mongols on the steppes, etc. I will shamelessly steal good ideas if anyone has already tackled this sort of game?

doc mcb25 Feb 2026 3:35 p.m. PST

ChatGPT gave me a list of online or boardgames:

• Fire Tower for wind-driven spread + containment logic
• GridFire for parameter knobs (wind/humidity)
• Flash Point for the cleanest escalating fire-state engine

doc mcb25 Feb 2026 3:38 p.m. PST

I am still fumblng around with my buffalo hunt game, and there is overlap with the prairie fire as Comanches and wolves move into blackened areas behind the fire to scavage.

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2026 5:59 p.m. PST

The board game I know is Hotshots. The rules are free to download.

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doc mcb25 Feb 2026 10:32 p.m. PST

Thanks!!

Legends In Time Skip Supporting Member of TMP26 Feb 2026 12:37 p.m. PST

Hotshots is a very good game.

Interesting mechanics that you could use for a Miniatures game as well.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP26 Feb 2026 6:36 p.m. PST

I bought Smokejumpers 10 years ago and tried to make a miniatures game of it, got lots of N-gauge figures and vehicles but never got it off the ground.

mildbill28 Feb 2026 5:33 a.m. PST

When you hear the fire take a breath, it is time to back up.

Lucius02 Mar 2026 4:43 p.m. PST

Not a ruleset, but a rule suggestion:

Ranchers would fight prairie fires by skinning a steer and dragging it along the fire line. There is a great representation of this in a WPA era post office mural called "Ranchers of the Panhandle Fighting Prairie Fire with Skinned Steer" by Frank Mechau. This mural is in my old hometown, and is a an incredible depiction of the technique – so much so that a copy of it hangs in my office.

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doc mcb03 Mar 2026 5:12 p.m. PST

Lucius, wow! So I asked Chat GPT and got this:

There is a mural on the wall of the Brownfield, Texas Post Office (now Police Headquarters) showing
"Ranchers of the Panhandle Fighting Prairie Fire with Skinned Steer" – Frank Mechau (1940). What can you tell me about this technique? and did the plains tribes use anything similar?

The mural you mention—"Ranchers of the Panhandle Fighting Prairie Fire with Skinned Steer" (1940) by Frank Mechau—depicts a real frontier firefighting method that was occasionally used on the open plains. The technique looks dramatic because it was dramatic.

The "Skinned Steer" Fire-Beating Technique

The basic idea was simple: smother the fire rather than outrun it.

When a fast grass fire approached, ranchers sometimes killed a steer and partially skinned it, leaving the heavy, wet hide attached.

The carcass and hide were then dragged by a horse along the fire front.

The moist, heavy hide slapped against the flames, depriving them of oxygen and flattening burning grass.

By repeatedly dragging the hide along the edge of the fire, riders could beat down or extinguish the advancing flames.

Why it worked:

Weight: A steer hide is thick and heavy enough to press burning grass flat.

Moisture: The fresh hide is wet and resists burning.

Smothering: Fire in short prairie grass often goes out if deprived of oxygen.

But it was extremely dangerous:

The rider and horse had to work right at the fire front.

Shifting winds could trap them.

Smoke, heat, and flying embers made visibility poor.

For that reason the technique was a desperate improvisation, not the usual method.

More Common Plains Fire-Fighting Methods

Settlers and cowboys usually relied on simpler methods:

1. Beating the flames

Wet gunny sacks

Saddle blankets

Coats or canvas

2. Firebreaks

Plowing strips of bare earth

Burning a strip ahead of the fire (a backfire)

3. Fire drags

Later ranchers dragged chains or metal sheets behind horses to smother flames.

These approaches all worked on the same principle: knock down the thin flame front of grass fires before it spreads.

Did Plains Tribes Use Similar Methods?

This is an interesting contrast.

Plains tribes did not usually try to extinguish prairie fires

Historical evidence suggests that Plains peoples—including Comanche, Kiowa, and others—generally did not expend effort trying to stop large grass fires. Instead they lived with them or used them deliberately.

Fire was commonly used to:

Drive bison toward hunters

Improve grazing by burning old grass

Signal or communicate

Cover retreats or hinder enemies

Nomadic peoples could simply move their camps and let the fire pass.

Survival tactics rather than suppression

If caught by a fire, Plains Indians likely relied on strategies such as:

Riding to burned ground (areas already burned)

Taking refuge in rivers or creeks

Using low-grass areas or buffalo wallows

Lighting small counterfires

But there is little evidence of hide-dragging or fire-beating techniques like the ranchers used. Those methods make more sense for settlers protecting buildings, fences, and hay, which the nomadic tribes did not have.

Why the Technique Appears in the Mural

The New Deal post-office murals often celebrated local frontier ingenuity, and the Brownfield mural highlights a dramatic example of rancher improvisation on the treeless plains.

It captures a moment when:

There were few natural firebreaks

Fire could run miles in a few hours

Men on horseback were the only firefighting equipment available

✅ In short:
The "skinned steer" technique was a real but rare emergency method used by ranchers to smother prairie fires with a heavy, wet hide dragged along the flame front. Plains tribes generally did not use such suppression techniques; instead they treated fire as a natural and sometimes useful part of the grassland environment.

If you're interested, I can also show you a couple of remarkable historical accounts of prairie fires outrunning horses—which really underline why people resorted to desperate tricks like the skinned-steer method.

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