"Starfleet Academy: Seen it?" Topic

Curious what you think of the new Star Trek show. I believe 3 episodes are out so far.

From reviews I've seen on TV, web and from older trekies …. 🤢🤮

I stopped watching their series after the Picard era.

I haven't seen it, but I didn't care for what I saw from the advertisements for it. I also didn't care for Discovery. Reviews I've seen for it are mixed and now left vs right politics is raging in the various Star Trek Facebook groups. I'm giving it a pass.

No and I won't.

They told me it wasn't for me. The advertising confirmed this. From the reviews, no one involved with the show has any idea what a military academy is for or how one works.

I've seen reviews from the likes of the Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic, etc. I don't think Snarky Jay has chimed in yet. I usually trust them. We trust reviewers for their opinions, mainly because we agree with them.
Besides, I firmly believe that popular entertainment stagnated in the 90s.

Whatever. The scenes I've seen in those reviews show:
A happy go lucky skipping Klingon.
A bridge that looks like an absolutely fabulous Vegas shopping mall.
Obese officers.
The most cringe worthy collection of potential officers in training guaranteed to lose the next war.
A Captain lounging in the command seat like she's at home watching Real Housewives of Alpha Centauri, sipping a mimosa.

I expect that they will be doing a Star Fleet Academy musical. However, it will be without me watching.

I was less than impressed. Holly Hunter was the only bright spot, but her character seems off in some manner. Also you need to have watched discovery to be able to understand this show.

Watched the first episode cause it was free on Youtube.

Entertaining enough. Got off to a slow start, which is not completely unusual for new shows. By the latter half once they encountered anomilies in space and started picking up tachyon readings, from then on it was pure Star Trek gold and I was happy.

Nothing against this show in particular, but I don't pay every studio out there to watch whatever show they might put out, so I won't be following this one neither.

Which also means I hadn't watched Discovery, but it was easy enough to fill in this was a future after bad things had happened in the last series.

Have actually watched the first two episodes. First one was Ok and down hill from there. Sounds like the adults step away from episode 3.

I heard it has been cancelled.

OFM +1

Yes and am watching it on streaming, Thursday.
Noticed characters from several series including animated one.
Not something to take seriously.

Heard someone say they should let Shatner produce the new series instead of George Takei. Thought that was pretty good based on what I read and have seen.

I watched it.

Yes, there was no ad or review that made me think I would like it. But my wife wanted to give it a try and it would be great if it turned out to be good, so I gave it a try. Plus, there are a *lot* of haters out there. Once an IP is beloved any extension to it meets with a lot of hate, so you have to factor that out.

So I watched it.

Eh.

There was plenty to hate. Everything mentioned above was present and as egregious as you'd think. Well, the happy Klingon wasn't skipping, but he's a bird watcher and wants to be a doctor, I think.

My wife commented "everyone is on the spectrum" which is true except for the Draco Malfoy character they copied 100% from Harry Potter and the main character who is an actual criminal who doesn't even want to be there. They pretty much let anyone into Starfleet Academy.

Lots of things make no sense, and there was a little bit of that thing they did on Discovery where there's a crisis and everything is on fire and the enemy is shooting at them so they stop and talk about their feelings for a while.

On top of that, I think maybe I don't like TV shows anymore. This is definitely a TV show, if you know what I mean. It's not just the cliches and the structure, they're aiming to take you through a certain set of feelings.

On the plus side, Holly Hunter is fun. The premise and the story, underneath the execution, are okay, and sometimes you are even surprised by the twists. The sets and the aliens look great. Not the uniforms. The spaceships were not to my taste but some might like them. The space battle was pathetic, but this is supposed to be the positive paragraph, so forget I said that.

But for all that it had a lot of cool stuff in it. I'm willing to watch another episode or two. For me the bad stuff did not completely wipe out the fun.

It's also possible that we are a bunch of old men and this show is not aimed at old men. Can't blame them for not targeting us. On the other hand, a lot of young people don't like it either, so maybe whoever is making up Star Trek stuff now has just lost it.

So it's not great, and I don't see great potential in it, but I'm willing to give it three episodes, since the first two episodes are often atypical and shows can take a while to find their feet. But if you're sensitive to all the flaws we discussed, well, you can enjoy hating on the show without fear that what you've heard has been exaggerated.

I was OK with it. Not great but better than any reality show ever.

Sounds like the third episode turns into a CW teen comedy.

OFM, they're working on the obesity problem. I'm told they're dropping the hologram for push-ups. Imagine the shape it will be in after four years.

(Do you suppose NO ONE in the "writing room" knows what a hologram is, or was that person outvoted?)

Pity. I may still watch it & judge for myself but it doesn't sound good.

However, can I remind everyone ST:TNG sucked pretty badly at first? And it wasn't till the 5th episode of "Voyager' that I realised how great it was going to be?

Has anyone else noticed that almost all of the Klingons are actors of African descent. Why hasn't the show been called out about it?
The Klingon vs. Federation fleet battle was a joke.
Waste of special effects!

No. Have no intention of doing so.

Tried the first episode of Discovery, and it was so frickin' STUPID that I swore never to watch anything further.

Saw the first episode of Picard, and it was equally bad. Never watched further.

I'm done with modern Star Trek. The best Star Trek film of the modern era was Galaxy Quest. (I don't consider the TOS films "modern era." The Wrath of Khan is still a piece of magnificence that will never be topped.)

I watch TOS, the films (well 1-4 and First Contact) and DS9 (currently rewatching).

But the current stuff looks like complete carp. Pass.

By the way, in the far future I guess medicine is so progressed that one can be a glutton and not worry about heart disease, cancer, impotence, and diabetes. Hey, maybe before a date, you go to the doc and get your body completely rebuilt into "hot" mode, impress your intended, then let yourself go. Hit that 300 lb mark again and get another "full body makeover."

Seems we're headed that way now.

No. It doesn't look like something I would enjoy.

I'm sorry I missed Nerdrotic's Spock Action Figure livestream. "A Mint in Box Life is Not Lived."

But any watching of NuTrek encourages more of it. Fortunately, I have TOS and Babylon 5 on DVD, not to mention an unaltered Star Wars original trilogy. Also Firefly and Galaxyquest. Thinking of picking up the first few seasons of Andromeda. Plenty of good space opera out there. It's the heartbreaking shortage of Sword and Planet that gets to me.

Do you suppose NO ONE in the "writing room" knows what a hologram is, or was that person outvoted?

You are begging the question that anyone in the writing room was qualified to write space opera, let alone sci-fi.

Nope – I long ago decided that I've had all the Star Trek I need.

Watched two episodes and gave up. This show belongs on the CW.

Parzival, actually medicine has gone BACKWARDS. By Wrath of Khan, optical problems were so rare that glasses were only found in antique shops, and by the TNG era, they could replace missing legs and fix severed spines. But on ST 90210 we're back to wearing glasses and cadets in wheelchairs.

Star Trek is so dead that not even the writers remember it.

….to Insipidly go where no one wants to go anymore!

😉

35thOVI +1

Woke Klingons… 😱

John, I heard they "identify" as Federation now and use the pronouns ghaH/bIH/'oH

😉

I'm sorry, Sheldon. I'm unfamiliar with that particular Klingon dialect.

boy does it suck. tried watching as i am a big sci fy fan.
talk about woke ideology on steroids.

a fresh cadet with no experience flying in a starship?

a dysleict hologram?

a female hem ajar warrrior with klingon blood?

a 16 year old cadet doing microe organic possibilities?

a captain who sits like a idiot on captain chair?

on and on…

too preachy and does not get into science of star trek.

like a person who never watch it before making a movie.

I haven't watched and don't intend to. Kurtzman-trek has been garbage so far and this doesn't seem to be any better.

As a kid, I got to relish in writer's rooms filled with the likes of DC Fontana, Richard Matheson, Harlan Ellison, Rod Sirling and a host of other writers who lived fascinating full lives and brought those human experiences to their work. Now we have writers who went to college to be a writer and straight to writers rooms with no life experience other than complaining about how they are oppressed. Not one of them has enough life experience to write a short story and it shows.

TV and Film Studios should go back to hiring writers by their writing and not their look or gender or skin color. I am not saying don't hire diverse voices but my god there have to be writers out there with enough human life experience to write good stories and not the average dreck that is modern tv and film.

The preview trailer I saw was awful so have+will not watch it. Did try watching Discovery and hated it.

"I'm sorry, Sheldon. I'm unfamiliar with that particular Klingon dialect."

Come on Howard, was it my accent? 😉

Actually, I heard one analysis that made sense, and I'd give full credit if I could remember where: "This is a bunch of attractive young people in their school which is also a starship, flying around the universe helping people. It's live-action anime."

Yeah, that's about it. Pity they keep throwing in all those Star Trek references: it would work much better without them.

The posts on the Internet are not selling it

Star Trek sets the internet on FIRE as it introduces its first ever gay relationship involving a non binary human and a Klingon who risk it all to battle against interracial stereotypes and gender norms

Seems like more of a warning

Yeah, that sure sold me. 🙄

If anyone is still paying attention to this thread I watched the second episode last night. Words cannot express. We had to pause it several times to shudder.

I taught me kids that if you can't say something nice you're not trying hard enough. So let me tell you what I thought was great about the second episode:

The sets were great. The singing was actually okay.

End of File. That's it. Costumes were okay. Acting was… the best they could do with those lines. The script… was written by idiots who used idioms wrong, created one implausible situation after another, and apparently no one reviewed it. Do people really have a duo sing a scene from opera as background music for a diplomatic social gathering? So much illogic. The characters speak as if they don't remember what the other person said or what happened in the last scene.

I'm pretty stubborn, I'll probably watch the third episode, but wow. I don't care about the woke stuff one way or the other. I just care that it's terrible.

Andrew, those in Hollywood no longer care if we watch. They are writing only for those in their own circles and for those in their circles accolades.

We watched the third episode tonight. 100% better than the second episode, but that's a low bar. The second episode was painful to watch. The third was entertaining, had only a few things that made no sense, and was worth watching. Still needs work, but they earned me watching episode four. Not great, but not painful. Could go somewhere.

I heard it has been cancelled.

Paramount had to come out and deny the rumor that the show was cancelled (in fact, the 2nd season was approved before the first season debuted) and that Holly Hunter had been fired.

The show has been great for the online review business, there are some hilarious reviewers goring the beast over and over.

I think the count now is 8 gay characters and 2 straight characters. The Klingon is now wearing a skirt, and seems to be in a love triangle.

Is "RuPaul" going to make an appearance as the Romulan Ambassador: "Dominatrix".

A truly garbage show – very little to do with Star Trek.
I quit watching after four episodes – can't stomach any more.
My memories of the show:
- episode 1 was in space at least but was a bunch of raw recruits managing to save the ship from pirates!
- episode 2 was the two colleges pranking each other.
- episode 3 was laser tag.
- episode 4 was a great debate.
Very little to do with the Original ST or Next Gen. Too much teen angst and stupid versions of characters.

Is "RuPaul" going to make an appearance as the Romulan Ambassador: "Dominatrix".

There was a bartender in one episode who some reviewers described as a drag queen…

If woke dies in the cold silence of space…. Does anyone hear? 🤔

""Star Trek: Starfleet Academy," the latest installment in the legacy franchise, has been canceled. While a second season has already finished filming, CBS Studios and Paramount+ confirmed it will be the show's last."

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"In a joint statement, first reported by Variety, CBS Studios and Paramount+ said they were "incredibly proud of the ambition, passion, and creativity" of the series, which they said "pushed storytelling boundaries."
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The 10 people who watched the series echoed CBS and Paramount+ statements.

The 10 people, All of whom are family of cast members. Well except the person tied up to a beam, in an abandoned basement, staring at a TV with episodes in a 24 hour loop, trying to slit his wrist with a plastic spoon. 😏