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SBminisguy18 Jan 2026 11:28 a.m. PST

re: Ilhan Omar – Ilhan Omar's father, Nur Omar Mohamed, was a colonel in the genocidal Socialist Siad Barre regime's military, and also became the ideological enforcer for public schools. You could not rise to that rank in the Barre regime without being both loyal and brutal. And in reward, Omar's family were privileged apparatchiks with good housing, better schools, better food, better healthcare and access to better goods that the populace did not.

As the daughter of Barre regime loyalist, Ilhan got special treatment and lived as a princess for the first nine years of her life.

When the Barre regime was toppled with US help, Omar's family lost everything. Their parasitical existence was shattered, they fled the enraged mobs who would have given them the Ceausescu Treatment and became refugees.

Her father, who was a Big Man, was now a very little man. Ilhan the princess became Ilhan the angry pauper.

She hates the US for breaking her family's life of privilege, for bringing her father low, and forcing her to become a refugee.

@Oberlindes Sol LIC – cool find!

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2026 12:21 p.m. PST

"She hates the US for breaking her family's life of privilege, for bringing her father low, and forcing her to become a refugee."

Yes we can all see what a victim she is. Suffering racism and sexism daily. No opportunity to better herself. Living a life of poverty and neglect. That must be why she is so bitter. Fully understandable.

You realize my tongue is bleeding badly now, from biting it so hard as I typed that.

Honestly, Rashida Talib, AOC and so many others are just like her and are beneficiaries of the benefits of our country.

But they convince others "they care" as they fleece the very willing flock to pad their pockets.

Talib is probably the least well off.. but then compared to average Joe… 🤔

"Before taking office in 2019, Tlaib's net worth was estimated to be negative, largely due to liabilities exceeding her assets."

Today:

"Anywhere from 200,000 to
Some third-party analysis platforms estimate a higher ceiling near $491,000 USD, depending on how property values and market-based assets are calculated."

She too has been pretty much a leach on the taxpayers since she started her "work life".

This information via AI floored me!

"As of 2026, neither Rashida Tlaib nor Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have reported paying off their student loans in full. Both representatives have used their status as active borrowers to advocate for federal student debt cancellation.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC)
Status: As of her most recent financial disclosures (2024–2025 cycle), Ocasio-Cortez continues to carry student loan debt.

Balance: In late 2022, she stated she still owed approximately $18,000. USD Her 2023 financial disclosure report, which covered the 2022 calendar year, listed her debt in the range of $15,001 USD to $50,000. USD

Public Payment: She famously made a public payment during a 2019 House Financial Services Committee hearing, which reduced her balance from $20,237 USD to roughly $19,000 USD at that time.

Misinformation: In 2024, satirical reports falsely claimed she had $142,000 USD in debt forgiven; these claims were debunked by her office and major fact-checking organizations.

Rashida Tlaib
Status: Tlaib remains one of the members of Congress with the highest reported student loan balances.

Balance: She has publicly stated that she owes more than $70,000 USD in student loans, primarily from law school. Her financial disclosures consistently list this debt in the $50,001 USD to $100,000 USD range.

Public Stance: Tlaib has frequently argued that her debt, which was originally nearly $200,000 USD, has persisted despite years of work due to high interest rates. She remains a vocal proponent for wide-scale"

They want we the taxpayers to pay for the debts!! While milking the taxpayers for their current salaries and benefits!! 😡🤬

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2026 6:57 p.m. PST

SBm +1

OVI +1

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2026 8:27 p.m. PST

Claims about Ilhan Omar's background often combine verified facts with speculation and exaggeration for blatant political reasons.

It is established that her father, Nur Omar Mohamed, served as a colonel in the Somali National Army under President Siad Barre, whose socialist dictatorship was authoritarian and responsible for serious human-rights abuses. Like many families associated with the state during that period, Omar's family lived in Somalia until the regime collapsed and the country descended into civil war, at which point they fled, spent time in a refugee camp in Kenya, and eventually resettled in the United States.

What is not established is that Nur Omar Mohamed personally participated in genocide, war crimes or acted as an ideological or political enforcer for the regime. There is no credible documentation showing that he held a senior party role or was involved in repression beyond his position as a military officer. Likewise, claims that Ilhan Omar lived a lavish or "princess-like" life are unsupported; available accounts suggest a relatively stable, middle-class upbringing typical of some military families, not the life of a privileged apparatchik elite.

Assertions that Omar harbors hatred toward the United States because it supposedly destroyed her family's privileged existence are entirely baseless. They amount to wishful psychological motive-reading rather than evidence and are not supported by any reliable sources.

While it is legitimate to criticize Omar's political views or to note her family's connection to an authoritarian regime, claims of inherited guilt, exceptional privilege, or personal vendetta against the U.S. go beyond what the historical record can sustain.

Of course, to score a political point, all bets are off.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2026 6:21 a.m. PST

🤔
Wonder why she and her carpetbagger kin didn't decide to milk the Australian taxpayers instead of ours? Be more than happy to send them over. We will pay for the plane flight.

We have around 50 to 70 thousand in our state capital and they have over 7 million in taxpayer graft similar to Minnesota, by ours.

I guess pirates will always be pirates, no matter where they move.

What city do you live in?

Just have your PM offer to take them. I'm sure the President will accommodate.

Tgunner19 Jan 2026 8:54 a.m. PST

@Oberlindes Sol LIC

Interesting game. All of the bits to play are there fr0m what I can see. I'll have to give it a look see.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2026 9:49 a.m. PST

OVI +1

SBm +1

There are some in Congress whether born or a naturalized US citizen. Who are IMO and many others, are Unamerican, socialists/communists, antisemitic, pro-islamist/jihadi, etc.

Freedom of speech always some of the things they say is acceptable. But when what they say or others in State and local Gov't say can cause some to violate the rights of peaceful protests and assembly … I.e. inciting to riot, etc.

If you break the law, you should be charged/arrested, go to trial and if found guilty go to prison …

Some who are not Americans, live outside the USA … are allowed their opinions. But with many here that opinion holds very little veracity …

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2026 10:17 a.m. PST

Now invading a church interrupting services. Demanding they support the resistance and berating their "white privilege".

Subject: End Wokeness on X: "BREAKING: Anti-ICE mob storms church in St. Paul, MN and shuts service down t.co/PgYkWTuO3g / X


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Subject: Right Angle News Network on X: "BREAKING – Anti ICE agitators, led by failed CNN host Don Lemon, stormed a Minneapolis church this morning, halting services and holding members hostage because they believed the pastor was ICE affiliated. "The whole point of it is to disrupt and make people uncomfortable." t.co/ddwPwpwV5E / X


link

Now this one is proud of running those off who disagree with their "free speach" and their actual impeding federal officers in performance of their duty, which is a felony.

Subject: E X X ➠A L E R T S on X: "ALERT: Woman reveals that a quick response group she's in was able impede and obstruct an ICE operation that ended in the detainee being let loose: "When we got the call for this ICE sighting, within minutes, we had 20 to 30 observers on foot and in vehicle, myself included. t.co/4rYXbWfitN / X


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This "mostly peaceful" Somali "protesters" steal a $1,000 USD camera out of a window, then tell the gentleman he has no right in "their" area.

Subject: Nick Sortor on X: "🚨 BREAKING: A group of Somali thugs just ROBBED me of my $1,000 USD camera in the Cedar Riverside neighborhood of Minneapolis They then DRAGGED ME DOWN THE STREET as my hand got trapped in their door handle NOBODY bothered helping DHS MUST RAID THIS PLACE! t.co/DXI426E9AY / X


link

And

The "protestors" impede officers trying to arrest a child sex offender. 🙄

Subject: 'INSANE': Viral video shows the moment an ICE agent speaks out to an alleged member of the press, as agitators honk their car horns while agents try to do their job and carry out an arrest. "We're trying to arrest a child sex offender. That's who you guys are protecting." | Fox News | Facebook


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How many of these were covered on your media?

I know 2 were on Fox this morning.

SBminisguy19 Jan 2026 12:01 p.m. PST

Nur Omar Mohamed personally participated in genocide, war crimes or acted as an ideological or political enforcer for the regime.

Seriously? The Barre regime was brutal and genocidal and you do NOT become a colonel in an army of such a regime AND emerge as a trusted insider and political enforcer over education indoctrination by being a nice guy with clean hands. Dude has blood on his hands despite no formal charges laid that can stick.


Back on the idea of GreyWars – interesting series of events in Minnesota. Some anti-ICE mobs have begun to enforce their own paralell legal/moral code outside official law. I have seen videos where:

1. Mobs are enforcing their own traffic stops -- obstructing and detaining people who have the wrong looking car.

2. Mobs have been assaulting and pressuring businesses for suspicion of supporting ICE

3. Mobs stormed into a church and disrupted worship ober allegations a pastor was pro-ICE

Here's a list of laws these actions violate:

Impersonating a Peace Officer
False Assumption of Official Authority
Unauthorized Exercise of Police Powers
Use of False Authority to Detain or Question
False Imprisonment / Unlawful Detention
Kidnapping (if movement is compelled, even briefly)
Assault (placing someone in reasonable fear of harm)
Criminal Menacing / Threatening
Coercion
Harassment (Aggravated)
Riot
Inciting a Riot
Unlawful Assembly
Failure to Disperse
Disorderly Conduct (Felony-Eligible)
Obstruction of Public Ways / Highways
Reckless Endangerment
Vehicular Endangerment
Obstruction of Traffic
Endangerment of Minors (if children are present)
Criminal Damage to Property (if vehicles are struck or damaged)
Deprivation of Civil Rights Under Color of Law
Conspiracy to Violate Civil Rights
Hate Crime Enhancements (if race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or political belief is a factor)
Interference with Free Exercise of Religion (church disruption)
Criminal Conspiracy
Aiding and Abetting
Solicitation
RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act)
Extortion
Intimidation of a Business
Criminal Trespass
Burglary (if entry is forced or remains after being told to leave)
Vandalism / Criminal Mischief
Aggravated Assault
Use of a Dangerous Instrument
Felony Enhancement for Group Intimidation

What really stands out to me is that we've crossed from protest into parallel enforcement behavior. Once mobs are conducting their own traffic stops, detaining people, punishing businesses for alleged affiliations, and storming churches to halt worship, that's no longer expressive politics—it's a claim to authority.

If the Authorities were supporting civil society by upholding the law, a single mob traffic stop should generate:

*5–10 felony counts per participant

*conspiracy exposure for organizers

*federal civil-rights jurisdiction

*enhanced sentencing due to group action

But the Authorities have ceded power to the Mob. Historically, that's a key escalation threshold. Civil conflicts don't usually begin with organized rebellion; they begin when groups decide they are justified in enforcing norms themselves because formal authority is seen as illegitimate or hostile. From there, the next steps tend to be predictable: normalization of "community enforcement," expansion of targets to anyone deemed ambiguous or insufficiently loyal, and eventually either a serious injury/death or the introduction of armed "defensive" presence.

The danger isn't coordination or conspiracy—it's moral inversion. When people start saying "they deserved it," neutrality disappears, restraint becomes complicity, and escalation becomes self-sustaining. At that point, no one has to want a civil conflict for one to start emerging.

That's why this phase matters. You can still de-escalate protests. It's much harder to de-escalate rival claims to authority once everyday life—traffic, commerce, worship—becomes contested territory.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2026 12:11 p.m. PST

With regard to Ms Omar's bio, one of us deliberately falsifies the record. I have no desire to "argue" with you (or the various grey boxes on this thread) when you are content to use guess work over facts. Proof is such an annoying notion.

I do know one day, in the fullness of time, we will be called to account for our actions, words & writing & I think I'd rather be me than you.

SBminisguy19 Jan 2026 12:30 p.m. PST

With regard to Ms Omar's bio, one of us deliberately falsifies the record. I have no desire to "argue" with you (or the various grey boxes on this thread) when you are content to use guess work over facts. Proof is such an annoying notion.

You're funny! You're as smart or thick as you need to be for any given topic, waxing from insightful to waning as a deflective obfuscator. I have asked you a direct logic question.

Can you answer? Can you think creatively in a way that synergizes your knowledge of history and human nature and applying it to new events or situations?

Let's put it this way -- the Barre regime was essentially Stalinist, or Saddamist. And under the Siad Barre regime, becoming a colonel — and then being trusted with political education and indoctrination — wasn't about being a good soldier. It was about proving, again and again, that you were essential to the regime's survival.

Advancement came from loyalty, not tactics. Officers who rose quickly were the ones who never hesitated, never questioned orders, and understood that the real enemy wasn't a foreign army, it was any alternative source of loyalty.

Clan elders, religious figures, teachers, students, even whole communities could all be treated as threats if they operated outside party control. An officer who showed he could discipline civilians, enforce ideology, and do it without apology was signaling that he "got it."

The real promotion path ran through politics and security – ruthlessly kissing up and kicking down, sabotaging and detroying rivals while proving loyalty to the regime. Once an officer crossed into intelligence work or acted as a political enforcer in uniform—running purges, screenings, arrests, and "reeducation" — rank followed. Colonel wasn't just a military title; it was a stamp of trust. It meant the regime believed you were dependent on it, ruthless for it, and incapable of surviving without it.

And then he became a chief regime doctrine enforser as well??Education mattered because ideas mattered. Schools and universities were seen as security spaces, not civic ones. Youth had to be shaped before they organized. Religion had to be subordinated. Curriculum had to serve the state. Putting a colonel in charge of education made the message unmistakable: ideas would be enforced like law, and law like war.

That role required a specific kind of behavior—collective punishment without hesitation, intelligence extraction by any means, constant public displays of loyalty, and absolute refusal to admit policy failure. Brutality was acceptable. Independence was dangerous.

Then the regime collapsed, and with it any chance of accountability. Courts vanished. Records disappeared. The army fractured. There was no tribunal, no truth commission, no functioning state to bring charges. Human rights groups documented the system, but there was no court to receive the cases and no power to enforce them. Many former enforcers simply slipped into exile or local politics.

So no reckoning followed. Not because no one knew what happened, but because the system that created those crimes died and took responsibility with it, and nobody in the "global community" cared.

But why do you care so much about Ilhan Omar that you would defend her war criminal dad?

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2026 12:54 p.m. PST

SB never forget:

"Never bring facts to a feelings fight" 😉

Welcome to my world. 🙂

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2026 1:06 p.m. PST

SB

Looks like the church invasion is not playing well to the public for the left's politicians and journalist and they are trying to separate.

Tim Walz spokesman when questioned:
January 19, 2026, that "While people have a right to speak out, he in no way supports interrupting a place of worship,"

Don Lemon is trying to backtrack as well. He is trying to separate himself now as opposed to the statements he originally made in the video in an above post of mine. As charges may be filed against him.

His Husband was questioned by a reporter this afternoon asking if charges had been filed, he responded: "No Comment".

SBminisguy19 Jan 2026 1:31 p.m. PST

35thOVI +1 – yeah, old habits die hard. I was a defense/space industry analyst at one point in my career and I tend to go long on my posts. I guess I should use ChatGPT to edit down to shorter statement…maybe just resort to being pithy and to the point and reply with "Nuh uh, is not!" or, "Is too, is too!"…

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2026 2:59 p.m. PST

I enjoy you and others comments. But you are wasting facts on that one. 😉

SBminisguy19 Jan 2026 10:45 p.m. PST

Fun fact on Ms Omar – she entered Congress with a net worth of around $50,000. USD While her annual salary is a generous $174,000 USD/year, somehow she has amassed $30 USD MILLION in net worth in just 5 years…

Tango0119 Jan 2026 11:36 p.m. PST

Pentagon readies 1,500 troops as Minnesota anti-ICE protests grow

link

Armand

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2026 5:39 a.m. PST

POTUS has increased his personal wealth by over a billion in his first year back in office per the most widely read digital newspaper in America. according to today's issue. Omar is a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of Congress. There are plenty of other reasons to be concerned about her.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2026 6:08 a.m. PST

Tort her wealth is not the point.

It is her attitude toward the U.S. Our culture, our government, our society, our norms. She says nothing positive, always critical. This coming from a person we saved from a probable horrible death or "married" slavery(to one of the victors), due to the acts of her family and from one of the worst countries on earth.

She came over broke.
Her family obtained benefits from our taxpayers to settle and live here.
She used taxpayer money (not paid back) to obtain a college degree.
She took one taxpayer paid job after another, until obtaining her current taxpayer job as a congressman.
She now has at least 30 million dollars! Never having a job that did not leach from taxpayers directly or indirectly. 🤔

There are also accusations of involvement with the Somali community taxpayer graft, either monetarily, for votes, or both.

There are the accusations of the marriage to her brother and citizenship, which seem to be more well founded each year. (Which is a US crime, and I do not speak of the incest)

That is just the tip of the iceberg.

In her case, our country took you from nothing to a multi millionaire, at our expense and yet she is continuously critical?? 😡

Leave the money, go back to Somalia and show us how much better you can do there! Why did she ever leave???

IMO she has added nothing of value to our country.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2026 6:29 a.m. PST

The invasion of the church during services, by anti Ice "protesters".

The Face Act:

"The Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act (18 U.S.C. § 248) explicitly prohibits impeding religious services or access to places of worship.
While commonly associated with reproductive health clinics, the Act provides the same federal protections to individuals exercising their First Amendment right of religious freedom.

Key Protections for Religious Services

Under the FACE Act, it is a federal crime to use force, threats of force, or physical obstruction to intentionally:

Interfere with worshipers: Injury, intimidation, or interference with anyone lawfully seeking to exercise their religious freedom at a place of worship.

Block access: Rendering the entrance or exit of a place of worship impassable or making passage "unreasonably difficult or hazardous".

Damage property: Intentional destruction of a place of religious worship.
Enforcement and Penalties

Federal Investigation: As of January 2026, the Department of Justice has affirmed its authority to investigate incidents where protesters "halt" or "interfere" with religious services under this Act.

Criminal Penalties: Violations can lead to fines and imprisonment. Non-violent first offenses may carry up to six months in prison, while offenses involving bodily injury or death can lead to much steeper sentences, including life imprisonment.

Civil Action: Aggrieved individuals or religious organizations can file civil suits to seek injunctive relief (to stop future interference) and compensatory or punitive damages."

The backers of the church invaders are quick to use that law to prosecute those protesting at abortion clinics. Let's see if they fairly use it here, against their own.

No, I am NOT holding my breath. 😏

SBminisguy20 Jan 2026 9:05 a.m. PST

Omar is a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of Congress. There are plenty of other reasons to be concerned about her.

This is an indicator of the deep and damaging theft being done to our country. I know people who invented life saving technology, literally saving people from dying, and they didn't score $30 USD Million from thier inventions. She's corrupt as hell.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2026 9:08 a.m. PST

SBm +1

OVI +1

Anyone … who illegally enters the US by violating the rules of immigration, by e.g.: lying on the paperwork, or allegedly marrying one's brother, etc. as in this case. That is breaking US Law. This is e.g. not Somalia, or e.g. any country that follow Shria Law. Shria Law is basically in many/most situation is illegal or at least not compatible with American standards, culture, morales, etc.

Many here came to the US not to be Americans … not to assimilate. One can keep their culture, and religious beliefs. E.g. like many ethnicities, i.e. as my kin came here in 1905. We still keep some of our cultural, ethnic, etc. traditions. Like most here in the USA, we are Americans first. And we or anyone are free to practice their cultural traditions, etc. AS long as it does not break US Laws. E.g. honor killings, marrying children, etc., etc. THAT IS Illegal in the USA.

Plus IMO Omar has gained a lot of wealth/acquired a lot of $ in a very, very short time. And she is a public servant; she works for the American people. Not just the Somalis, or Hispanics or African Americans, or Palestinians, or Italians, or etc., etc. … I'd think if someone in public service, elected or appointed still has to adhere to all laws. This is not a page from Orwell's "Animal Farm" …

But as we see here, by questioning someone who is a minority and/or female than it is considered racist/sexist. Is that the standard ? IF one breaks the law regardless of race, sex, religion, sexual preference, ethnicity, etc., that individual(s) broke the law. Including no matter who you are or where you came from, etc. If you crossed into the USA illegally then you are a criminal. Even if that was your only crime. Regardless it is still breaking the law/committing a crime.

A crime as assuredly as illegally taking funds that do not belong to you … From public or private funds …

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2026 9:25 a.m. PST

Pentagon readies 1,500 troops as Minnesota anti-ICE protests grow
Yes as I mentioned on another post here.

The Pentagon has given a Warning/Op Order to prep to deploy to the newly formed 11th ABN Div. They are stationed in Alaska; they are one of the US Military's units that are highly trained in Arctic warfare. The Div. consists of 2 Bde CBT TMs, at this time. They are in the best position to deploy to MN. In that state's extreme cold weather.

The CinC again has the authority to do this by the Constitution.
If a GO is given by the CinC/Pentagon 1500 US Army Paratroops will be deployed …

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2026 9:32 a.m. PST

And Omar was picked in this conversation, because:

She is a congressional representative of the Minneapolis area.

Specifically of an immigrant community that is made up of both those granted asylum and those here illegally. Some of the former breaking the laws and all of the later, breaking our laws.

She specifically has made herself part of this issue. Issuing false statements about what is occurring and unfounded and heated claims of racism. She has done nothing to cool heads down, but has done her best to inflame issues. With Omar, this is not new and all too frequent.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2026 9:36 a.m. PST

Legion on the Troops +1

Walz readied his national guard prior to that. Had them wearing yellow vests to "differentiate them". Why? For what purpose? "Abuse everyone but those wearing the yellow vests"? Honestly that is my "best" and most innocent explanation for its purpose.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2026 5:09 p.m. PST

Well as we see … with many of these governors, mayors, etc. Are not the sharpest tools in the shed. And they continue to demonstrate this.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2026 5:28 a.m. PST

SB, you get what I am saying here. Omar raises many concerns about her positions and public statements. But she is not different from many others re using her office for personal gain. This in itself does not set her apart from all the inside traders, the quid pro quo players, etc.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2026 6:10 a.m. PST

Tort I know I'm not SB. 😉

Do politicians get wealthy while "serving the people"? Is the Pope Catholic? 😉

But I pointed out why she is different in this case.

You mentioned Trump earlier. Only 3 Presidents have donated their salaries to charities, even though they were already wealthy. Trump is one of only 3. The other 2 were not Obama, Bush or Biden.

SBminisguy21 Jan 2026 10:04 a.m. PST

But she is not different from many others re using her office for personal gain. This in itself does not set her apart from all the inside traders, the quid pro quo players, etc.

Yep, just like Pelosi and AOC and others have cashed in while in Congress. Congress needs to be subject to ALL the laws the rest of us are, including Insider Trading. And I think there should be at least a 2 year ban on lobbying for any public employee after they leave office or government service.

Dagwood21 Jan 2026 2:25 p.m. PST

Trump's salary is chump change compared to the money he is making by exploiting his position as President, contrary to the Hatch Act.

Has anyone seen his tax returns yet ? Any of them ?

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2026 2:35 p.m. PST

And I think there should be at least a 2 year ban on lobbying for any public employee after they leave office or government service.

Make it five years, mate, and they'll have lost most of whatever attraction they may have for any prospective employer. We've got the same problems here (eg former politicians filling ambassador slots for which they have no training nor experience- like the current one to the US, who was slagging off your new president during interviews), and I think it's one of the "advantages of democracy" that's never going away.

To paraphrase Terry Pratchett's suggestion (again), a law that requires elected politicians to be gaoled for twice the term they're in office should be in place. If the elected pollie hasn't committed a crime before they were elected, they will now they have been elected- even if their self -written rules supposedly allow them to do what non-politicians would be charged and gaoled for. Insider trading, misuse of government funds, using deception to gain an advantage (here strongly republican pollies swear an oath of allegiance to the Crown so they can get their snouts in the Parliamentary trough, despite their efforts to overthrow the Crown's authority), kickbacks, etc, etc, seem to be part of the salary package.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2026 2:36 p.m. PST

Dagwood

Please enlighten us all with the specifics of his ill gotten gains in office. Specifically any that are illegal. 🙂

I did not see Barrack, the Bush's nor "the Biden Family" (as we don't know who was running the country), give up their salary to charities.. even though they were all wealthy enough to do so.

He is even building a new ballroom and did NOT even make WE the taxpayers, pay for it. Unlike a basketball court, swimming pool and other such things added before. The ballroom does seem a lot more necessary use than does a basketball court or a swimming pool. 🤔

I know: "BUT IT'S THE TRUMPSEYYYYY!!! he's nasty and evil isn't he preciousssssssssss"

SBminisguy21 Jan 2026 3:37 p.m. PST

compared to the money he is making by exploiting his position as President

Like???

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2026 7:57 p.m. PST

OVI +1

SBm +1

FWIW … just because many in Congress did questionable things. E.g. broke the law … Does not mean what they did was right … Everybody is doing it excuses nothing …

Dagwood22 Jan 2026 1:07 a.m. PST

Start with his first term, inauguration ball at his own hotel at a "special rate", continuing every time he plays golf and accommodates the security detail at his own hotel. How about the airplane he intends to take with him when (if) he leaves, 400mUSD, or his ventures into bitcoin …

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2026 6:06 a.m. PST

Dagwood

Accusations that have been made by Democratic regimes. Just as those against the "Biden Family" have been during Republican regimes. Also accusations against Bush, Clinton…

Then we can go into those in Congress.. 😱😱😱

So let's not pick out one and say they are somehow unique. It has to be proven in the court systems, all the way to the end.

As Pvt. Trip said:

"Yeah, It stinks bad. And we all covered up in it too. Ain't nobody clean. Be nice to get clean, though."


Trust no one who attaches themselves to the teat of the taxpayer largesse.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2026 8:18 a.m. PST

Here ya go SB. Note that some of this money gives the appearance of quid pro quo, as has allegedly gone on with the Saudis for some time. Plenty of media coverage, people too numb to notice? Or watching censored news. Not proven in court though and crypto is legal. And unregulated. Classic one man rule stuff.

His donated salary is about .01% of this income, but as Eric says somewhere, they may have more crypto earnings than reported. Whatever you believe, it is worth keeping an eye on the business angles.

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SBminisguy22 Jan 2026 8:42 a.m. PST

Dal Gavan +1 – sounds good to me!

SBminisguy22 Jan 2026 10:30 a.m. PST

Here ya go SB. Note that some of this money gives the appearance of quid pro quo, as has allegedly gone on with the Saudis for some time.

A libel suit is not normal income -- that's a court settlement in his favor for damages. The $400 USD Million jet is a gift to THE UNITED STATES, not Trump, and is in the control of USAF. So those top two examples are not valid. As for the rest, given half the "income" claims in your article are bogus, I take it with a grain of salt.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2026 11:11 a.m. PST

No problem, SB, I get it. I would say that the settlements paid were done to avoid court and future retribution. I won't use the street name for this. But there is no proof. Trump is taking the plane with him.

The NYT article had far more detail, but NYT is kind of toxic here, so I did not link it.

And I have referenced all the inside traitors and lobby buddies in the government many times here. My point is that we need systemic action to solve this. As Dal has portrayed.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2026 11:54 a.m. PST

We need congressional term limits. No one should be able to make their lifetime's occupation milking the taxpayers teat.

SBminisguy22 Jan 2026 12:31 p.m. PST

We need congressional term limits. No one should be able to make their lifetime's occupation milking the taxpayers teat.

I agree, BUT -- you need other safegaurds. Term limits in California under One Party Rule only means there's no competitition for office. Why would they compete against the Party choice by creating thier own fundraising and influence campaigns when all they have to do is wait a few years and get squired into place? So people just get in line for their turn, as long as they play Party Politics and cater to the right ideology and check list they simply advance up the ladder. Bad behavior is never held to account, and bad ideas are never challenged or corrected. So you need to also encourage competition.

SBminisguy22 Jan 2026 12:47 p.m. PST

@Tortoralla – there was no $400 USD Million jet gift/bribe to Trump.

1. Qatar has donated the 747 to the U.S. government.
The Pentagon/Defense Department has formally accepted a Boeing 747-8 jet from Qatar as a gift to the United States, with plans for it to be turned into an interim Air Force One.

2. It's now owned by the United States.
According to aircraft registry/detailed history information, the plane formerly registered as Qatari or privately held has been negotiated and transferred, and the U.S. agreed to accept it into the U.S. federal government's inventory (formerly owned by Qatar Amiri Flight and others) — making the U.S. owner once the gift is completed.

3. The plan is for the Air Force to modify it.
The U.S. Air Force has begun or will begin extensive retrofits to bring it up to secure presidential transport standards before it is put into use.

Dagwood22 Jan 2026 3:07 p.m. PST

4. At the end of Trump's presidency, ownership will transfer to his family trust, for the personal use of him and his family.

SBminisguy22 Jan 2026 7:25 p.m. PST

Nah, that's based on some news reports as a planned possibility -- not verified. The only verified news is that the plane has been officially accepted by the US Government and is with DOD pending a planned refit.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2026 8:15 p.m. PST

ownership will transfer to his family trust, for the personal use of him and his family.
Where did that drivel come from ? Who said such foolishness ? It will belong to the DOD/USAF. And will it be an a temporally Air Force 1 (a) Air Force 3 ? Used to transport members of the gov't, etc., etc. ?

Besides he already has at least one tricked, out IIRC, a 747.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP23 Jan 2026 6:14 a.m. PST

The Trumps are working on serious real estate business in Qatar, are partners in a new resort there, plan an 80 story tower. Accepting the plane gave the appearance of quid pro quo, IMO. We couldn't provide the POTUS an American owned plane? What happens to the gift post Trump is not confirmed one way or the other, as I understand it.

The US government has stashed the new Venezuelan oil money profits in banks in Qatar. Legal but strange considering Trump has called Qatar funders of terrorism.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 Jan 2026 7:59 p.m. PST

I'm sure his detractors know all that. And will start impeachment proceedings … again … and again … repeat …

Yes and we know about Qatar's prediction for supporting the likes of Hamas, etc. However, we need our Airbase, etc. there. It is strategically located …

Realpolitik at its best.

Even Turkey supported Hamas. But they are strategically located and have the 2d biggest military in NATO …

Again … Realpolitik at its best.

Seems we have to balance reality and pragmatism with idealism and virtue … To survive … With the enemies at the gate and the 5th Column within.

Like the Trojan Horse inside Troy …

SBminisguy28 Jan 2026 2:23 p.m. PST

Good overview of how well organized and even miltarized the "protesters" -- they are well organized, trained and funded.


In this video, I walk through a publicly available training document hosted on the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America's website that explains how "ICE Watch" and rapid-response protest networks are structured and trained.

This isn't about taking sides.

It's about understanding how organization changes the dynamics between protesters and law enforcement.

Using an intelligence-analysis lens, I break down:
Why these protests aren't spontaneous
How task organization, reporting formats, and comms discipline work
Why tools like whistles and SALUTE-style reporting matter
Where the risk of miscalculation starts when one side sees law enforcement and the other sees an existential threat
Why history shows that force without legitimacy doesn't suppress unrest, it trains it

To be very clear:
This video does not claim Minneapolis is facing an insurgency.
It does not label protesters as terrorists.
And it does not argue ICE is acting illegally by default.

What it does show is how modern protest movements prepare, train, and coordinate, and why ignoring that reality leads to bad outcomes for everyone involved.

YouTube link

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2026 7:34 a.m. PST

SB

This has been verified. A week before the shooting.

Subject: Ryan Saavedra on X: "🚨 BBC obtains footage from January 13 of a man they say is Alex Pretti Videos appears to show him spitting at federal law enforcement and attacking their vehicle t.co/cuXYO6PLIx / X


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Now there are questions about his employment, which the MSM is fighting as untrue.

Does not really matter unless he was indeed released because of what was said in them, but we have him out there the week before and of course the day of the shooting. My belief is, he was out there most of the time. How could he have actually been working at the same time? Add to that, he was employed at the VA, so was getting paid by the taxpayers while doing this.

I will add, that knowing now what they had on tape and in conflict with officers from the week before (yes they tussled there too), may be why some called him a domestic terrorist.

Also if he was carrying at the time of the conflict with officers on the 13th as he was the day he was shot, he should have been still in jail.

"Yes, engaging in a physical conflict with law enforcement officers while possessing a concealed carry license is a serious crime. It can result in immediate revocation of your license, felony charges, and significant prison time, regardless of whether you believe the officer was acting lawfully. "

We will see if more continues to dribble out.

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