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Wolfhag31 Dec 2025 10:54 a.m. PST

It's been kind of slow on Bolt Action discussions lately so I thought I'd liven it up a little while practicing my AI skills:

Here is my ChatGPT prompt:
there is a historical miniatures wwii game called "bolt action" published by warlord games. It is a very popular and award winning game design. Player like the use of the order dice. However, the main criticism of bolt action is that the action is not historical or realistic. here is what I want you to do: take a deep dive into sites with after action reports of games, rules and manual by going to the warlords web site, bgg website, and the miniatures page. then evaluate the rules based on real action and give me 5 different ways i can change the rules to make them more historical and realistic. do you understand?

Here is ChatGPT response:
I understand your request: you want a thorough evaluation of **Bolt Action's rules** — especially where they diverge from historical or realistic World War II tactical combat — **based on actual gameplay reports, the official rules/manual, community discussions, and comparisons with more historically focused systems**; and then you want **five concrete rule-change recommendations** that would move the game closer to *historical realism* while still being playable. I will provide that for you.

Below is a synthesis of how Bolt Action is experienced and described by players and reviewers, focusing on **mechanics that are commonly criticized as "unrealistic" or overly abstracted**, followed by **five proposed rule adjustments with justification tied to real WWII combat considerations**.

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## Brief Evaluation of Bolt Action's Core Design vs WWII Historical Combat

**Gameplay‐first design with abstraction over simulation**

Bolt Action's core mechanic — assigning order dice drawn randomly from a pool — creates dynamic and unpredictable activation sequencing. This is enjoyed by many players but *does not reflect disciplined sequential command hierarchies or fixed initiative systems of real WWII units*.([boltaction.com][1])

**Simplified weapon profiles and ranges**

Bolt Action uses uniform weapon profiles and highly compressed ranges (e.g., most rifles have similar ranges) with little differentiation across weapon types. This makes for streamlined play but abstracts *effective combat ranges, rate of fire, and weapon lethality differences that were significant in WWII*.([Warlord Games UK][2])

**Detachment from historical Organisation and Equipment (OOB)**

Bolt Action's points system and army builder encourage mechanically balanced forces rather than historically accurate order of battle. Players often build "retro-hit squad" forces with unrealistic mixes of weapons (e.g., too many assault rifles or Panzerfausts compared to actual TOE).([Reddit][3])

**Terrain and battlefield effects are oversimplified**

Rules do not explicitly handle muddy terrain, woods line of sight, vehicle bogging, or complex LOS effects, even though *real WWII engagements were heavily influenced by terrain effects on movement, unit cohesion, and engagement opportunities*.([mantorvilleexpress.com][4])

**Armor and vehicles simplified**

Armor resolution in Bolt Action is highly abstract: four broad arcs instead of detailed hit locations or armor thickness profiles. This leads to unrealistic tank survivability and tactical decisions that do not mirror real armored warfare.([miniatures.de][5])

In summary, Bolt Action's design prioritizes *fun and accessibility* with historical flavor — but not fidelity — and community discourse reflects that it is often viewed more as a "Hollywood WWII wargame" than a historical simulation.([Reddit][6])

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## Five Rule Change Suggestions to Increase Historical Realism

These recommendations are **modular tweaks** that players can adopt house rules or implement as alternatives for more historically grounded play.

### 1) Replace or Modify Order Dice Activation to Reflect Command Structure

**Issue:** Random order draws with equal activation chances do not reflect hierarchical command control, planned initiatives, or the way units were directed by officers in WWII.

**Change:**

* Introduce a *Command Initiative Pool*: at the start of each turn, each player rolls an Initiative based on Officer Leadership stats. Higher initiatives allow that player to activate up to N units in sequence before opponent activations proceed.
* Alternatively, retain the order dice but weight drawing probabilities based on *squad leadership quality or suppressed state* — units with strong leadership/direction are more likely to receive orders.

**Historical Basis:** WWII units operated under a chain of command with intentional planning rather than random sequencing, and leadership directly influenced unit responsiveness under fire.

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### 2) Expanded Weapon Profiles and Effective Ranges

**Issue:** Bolt Action flattens weapon ranges and performance, giving rifles and SMGs similar effective distances and negligible differentiation between most standard infantry weapons.([Warlord Games UK][2])

**Change:**

* Use a *tiered range table* that reflects historical effective ranges: e.g., rifles ~300 m equivalent, SMGs ~100 m, LMGs ~500 m. These can be compressed to tabletop scale but should differentiate significantly.
* Add weapon-specific modifiers for rate of fire and accuracy based on historical ballistics (e.g., MGs have sustained fire bonuses; rifles lose effectiveness beyond effective range).

**Historical Basis:** Different weapons had very different effective engagement envelopes and lethality rates, which influenced tactical positioning and battlefield maneuver.

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### 3) Morale and Suppression Rules That Reflect Real Combat Stress

**Issue:** Bolt Action's pin markers abstract suppression but do not compel units to take cover realistically or break cohesively under sustained fire.

**Change:**

* Add suppression states where units *must seek cover* (to a defined minimum cover distance) and receive fire penalties until relieved.
* Introduce incremental morale effects that only dissipate over multiple turns and require officer-led rally attempts with Leadership checks.

**Historical Basis:** WWII infantry under fire rarely held fixed positions without cover; suppression had cumulative psychological and tactical effects that influenced movement and combat choices.

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### 4) Terrain and Movement Effects Should Impose Tactical Limits

**Issue:** Current terrain effects are minimal; vehicles and infantry treat most terrain uniformly, yet in WWII, mud, cover density, and line-of-sight obscuration critically affected operations.([mantorvilleexpress.com][4])

**Change:**

* Explicit terrain movement modifiers: *wooded terrain halves movement and requires LOS tests*, rough terrain imposes further penalties, and vehicles may bog down if entering difficult terrain without recon.
* LOS and concealment rules where foliage or ruins impose variable cover levels and sight blocking that influences target acquisition and fire resolution.

**Historical Basis:** Terrain shaped every tactical engagement, affecting movement speed, shots taken, cover, and rates of engagement.

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### 5) More Detailed Armor and Vehicle Damage Resolution

**Issue:** Bolt Action's armor protection is broad, treating side arcs as uniformly vulnerable and ignoring hit location.([miniatures.de][5])

**Change:**

* Use *hit location charts* for armored vehicles. A successful penetration requires a location roll that determines effects: e.g., mobility kill, turret disable, crew casualties — not just destruction or fire.
* Modify external factors such as slope, hull traverse angles, and side armor thickness differences, to reflect historical armor protection variances.

**Historical Basis:** WWII armoured engagements were often decided by where a vehicle was hit and subsequent system failures, not simple binary destroy/ignore outcomes.

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## Implementation Considerations

* All changes can be adopted as *optional rules* so that traditional Bolt Action play remains available. Historical intensification should be explicitly agreed upon by both players.
* Consider rolling these into *scenario design* and *campaign play* to track attrition, logistics, and reinforcement timing, further reinforcing historical fidelity.

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## Summary

Bolt Action is built to be *engaging and accessible*, drawing from game design mechanics that emphasize fluid play over simulation. Its strengths include an unpredictable activation system and simple infantry combat resolution, but its abstractions — especially uniform weapon profiles, simplified terrain/vehicle interactions, and lack of command realism — limit historical realism.([Board Game Guys][7])

By adopting the five rule changes above — **weighted activation, differentiated weapons, nuanced morale/suppression, detailed terrain effects, and richer armor resolution** — you can significantly shift Bolt Action toward a *more historically grounded tactical WWII experience* without sacrificing playability.

Sources checked:
[1]: link
FIELD MANUAL
WAGE WORLD WAR II ON YOUR TABLETOP!"
[2]: link "Ridiculous weapons rules – Warlord Games"
[3]: link "Why does Bolt Action discourage historically accurate army lists?"
[4]: link "Review : Bolt Action | Miniature War Gaming"
[5]: link "Bolt Action WW2 Wargame Rules"
[6]: link "Bolt Action Review – a World War II in the style of a Hollywood movie"
[7]: link "Bolt Action (2012) Board Game – Board Game Guys"

FYI: I did not make any changes or corrections. I don't think there is anything new that is being suggested that has been in other game designs.

Wolfhag

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2025 12:48 p.m. PST

That's an interesting summary by the AI, and interesting way to use it. I haven't played with AI myself- I'd reached my "new tech limit" when I retired. However, I'm impressed by some of the things that people are doing with it- eg scenario generation and rules analysis like the one you did.

I've only played one or two BA games, so I don't have enough experience to judge the system. My initial impression was that the system was "dBWWII" with a touch of 40K- made for competitions?- and not my cup of tea at all.

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