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Wolfhag10 Dec 2025 7:53 p.m. PST

A friend of mine who spent 2 years as a volunteer in Ukraine sent me this:

Here is one of the websites posting Western fighters in Ukraine: t.me/s/TrackAMerc?before=8259

He said he's not worried.

Wolfhag

advocate11 Dec 2025 1:24 a.m. PST

Badge of honour.

Mark J Wilson11 Dec 2025 8:19 a.m. PST

Presumably they sent out similar ones to the men serving in the Eagle squadrons of the RAF or with the Chinese; or is this a modern phenomenon inspired by the current regime.

Wolfhag11 Dec 2025 9:18 a.m. PST

Mark,
I could not find any reference as to Americans threatened by the Germans. Probably because they did not want to get the US pissed off at them.

However, it was illegal for Americans to volunteer prior to the US entry into the war but was not strictly enforced.

When the American returned from Ukraine in March 2023, he was detained by DHS at the Denver airport for 4 hours. They "interrogated" him wanting to know what units he served with, any connections to Azov units and Nazis, etc. He told them nothing and missed his connecting flight to Canada.

When leaving to return to the US I was with him and we were both detained by DHS at the Vancouver airport and our luggage searched. My passport was scanned into the system too because I was traveling with him. I've traveled outside the US several times since then but have had no problems, neither has he.

An Australian who served with him in Ukraine was detained by the Australian authorities for 3 days when he returned home.

Both of these guys had previously served in their nations armed forces and had no previous criminal record.

Wolfhag

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2025 9:45 a.m. PST

The scrutiny seems warranted, as does the warning letter. Putin's a nasty guy, and it's a nasty war all the way around. But when you travel to such places, the US authorities can't just take you at your word as to why you went, what you did, and what your intentions are coming home. Heck, look at recent news stories about foreign nationals, ostensibly allies of the US, turning into radicalized anti-US terrorists once they "settle" in on our shores. People have been murdered by that sort of person. So it seems to me they're paying attention, and the consequences the OP describes seem relatively light and minimal. Minor delay and detention (in the grand scheme of things) seem like a small complaint. (And in part is on purpose— radicals tend to have a "timeline" they expect to follow. If authorities are unsure as to what's going on, they may well indeed use "red tape" delays, etc., to disrupt any unknown timeline that may exist. It's just smart security work.)

I'd be grateful for the letter, personally.

DeRuyter11 Dec 2025 10:07 a.m. PST

@Parzival

These are two different issues. The letter I agree seems to be a helpful warning against potential Russian threats.

The detention(s) have nothing to do with "foreign nationals" this is a detention of citizens. Of course, that is warranted in certain circumstances as well but referencing the recent single incident with a foreign national who previously worked for the US government is misleading.

KeepYourPowderDry11 Dec 2025 10:16 a.m. PST

The web domain .ru would suggest that they are providing cannon fodder for Russia not Ukraine (which would be .ua)

Wolfhag11 Dec 2025 12:17 p.m. PST

AFAIK, it is up to the DHS people to detain and ask questions. I've met other US vets returning from Ukraine that were not detained and questioned.

The American served 5 years in the US Marines, had a TS/Crypto clearance, multiple combat deployments and 3x PHs. He said it was the first time he know of a Ukraine volunteer was detained.

He said the DHS event in Denver was not a standard briefing with civil questions. He said it was more like an inquisition with a bright light in his face being shouted at and accused as a Nazi and sympathizer and wanting names and unit designations. It probable didn't help having a very Germanic first name. He said he was very uncooperative which probably did not help. He said they didn't care if he misses his flight, so it appears it was on purpose.

I was in the one in Vancouver and it was very civil and only 45 minutes and we didn't miss our plane. I was surprised they scanned my passport into the system.

The Canadian authorities did not hassle us at all. I understand, the US government guys were just doing their job.

He has no Nazi tattoos or social media regarding any type of "extremism." As a reference they could have called General Budanov, Ukraine Head of Military Intel who he reported to. He didn't have any military manuals or equipment.

I spent 2 weeks traveling throughout Ukraine at the end of 2024 with him and met Western fighters from many countries. I didn't see any visuals or get any Nazi vibes. That includes traveling through Lvov, Kyiv, Kharkiv, Zaporezia, Odesa, and other towns.

The Azov units, who are mostly in SE Ukraine and Donbas, are the ones with the Nazi agenda. Most have been fighting since 2014 and are actually stand alone units that mostly support themselves financially, training and equipment. Their recruiting posters are in every city and town.

I met Westerners that fought along side with Azov and said they are one of the best fighting units with the highest morale. They did not have to swear a blood oath to the Fuhrer.

You don't need to be a Nazi follower and not every Ukrainian serving in Azov units is a Nazi but they do attract people with that viewpoint. In the last few years they have somewhat "cleaned up" their act playing down the Nazi part for better PR. I'm unsure of their status and reputation now.

So while we were being detained at the airport as potential Nazis and White Supremacist's, the same DHS was letting guys with "MS13" tattooed on their forehead with known criminal records (MS13 was labeled as a Transnational Criminal Organization) enter the country free and not tracked. Go figure.

Yes, it was nice to get FBI the letter but he was already aware of the sites he's on as a mercenary and Nazi.

He's now a consultant for the US Army and Marines and doing foreign military training based on his experience and drone ops in Ukraine and over one year in Bakhmut as an Intel Officer Team Leader. He also has his TS clearance back.

Correction: IIRC it was US Customs and Border Protection, not DHS.

Wolfhag

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