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35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 6:04 a.m. PST

Rare information to see in web news, or print news for that matter, today. Almost always the opposite perspective.

Subject: John Stossel on X: "Many act as if slavery was a uniquely American crime. "One reason," says author Wilfred Reilly (@wil_da_beast630), "is that a lot of black people survived here." He argues that much of what Americans are taught about slavery is just wrong: t.co/GOQvqxPCZj / X


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OSCS7410 Dec 2025 6:16 a.m. PST

Read about the Congo in the late 1880's.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian10 Dec 2025 7:49 a.m. PST

Instructive video.

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 8:18 a.m. PST

Perhaps part of the answer is the question – To what standard do we hold ourselves?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 8:24 a.m. PST

It's kind of a "Yeah, but what about…..?" argument.
You try to deflect attention from yourself by pointing out someone worse. Is that supposed to say that "our slavery" was somehow more enlightened and humane by comparison?
I'd like to see someone seriously try to make that argument without sounding like a hypocrite.
Try it!
Hell, make it a Poll Suggestion!
Defend OUR brand of chattel slavery! I double dog dare you!

Grelber10 Dec 2025 8:36 a.m. PST

Our slaves came under the general heading of valuable livestock, in some of the Caribbean islands, particularly Haiti, due to the climate the mortality rate was extremely high, the slaves would seldom survive more than a year, and the idea was more along the lines of "work them hard till they die, then buy replacement slaves.'
Neither approach is anything to be proud of, of course. but Americans do have a tendency to apply superlatives to our society. A useful approach when you talk about producing 96,000 aircraft in a year, especially if you compare it to other countries (nearest competitor, the Soviet Union, only made 40,000), but not so useful in the case of slavery. We're just kind of muddling along there in the middle of the crowd, treating our slaves worse than some places and better than others, and we really like to be first.
By the way, back when the Saudis were fielding the E-3 AWACS, I went to a meeting attended by a black Saudi Air Force one star general.

Grelber

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 8:52 a.m. PST

John, I believe the point of the interview (and the author's book) was to provide a more accurate history of slavery. A slavery that was not unique to the U.S., but practiced worldwide and in some countries even today.

Not the version so many hear in schools, the media and from self serving politicians, that somehow the U.S. is uniquely evil and the single source of the evil's of slavery. We were not even unique in enslavement of Africans. All races share at one time or another, the evils of being enslaved.

He does not defend the U.S., in fact Wilfred Reilly himself is of African decent.

I don't believe it was to say: "Yeah, well what about…". 🙂

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 9:09 a.m. PST

A major reason for the use of black slaves is that a lot of west Africans have a genetic mutation that makes them naturally immune to malaria, which killed many Native American slaves. To make matters worse, they carried yellow fever, which they had survived as children. And while having yellow fever as a child was bad, getting it as an adult was often fatal, as it's one of those diseases that turns the immune system against the rest of the body. So black African slaves were preferred because they survived longer than other races.

kiltboy10 Dec 2025 9:38 a.m. PST

Slavery was well know to have existed through out history and existed in the US colonies prior to the Revolution so it didn't start with Washington et al.

I think the current US treatment of it is part of the problem, bring it up as a factor in why the states seceded and started the Civil War and it gets heated in a hurry.

Human trafficking is the new name for modern slavery and yes it still exists.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 9:48 a.m. PST

No matter how you spin it, it's still "Our slavery was nicer than theirs!"

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 9:51 a.m. PST

Well first of all, most American know very little about the rest of the world. They simply are unaware that slavery existed anywhere else. So not exactly do we teach in the US that our slavery was the worst (yes, I know some people will say that) it's that Americans assume it was the worst because they know nothing else about slavery.

Then, add on top of this, very few Americans know anything about our history. I don't think it is because teachers are always getting it wrong, it is that students and Americans in general make assumptions and don't care to learn history. They THINK they know and they don't.

Many African-Americans are shocked to find out it was actually Africans, not Europeans, that rounded up other Africans to be sold into slavery. Their own people were doing it. Also, very few Americans know that Arabs took far more Africans and placed them into slavery than Europeans did. Or that only 10% of all slaves to the New World came to the 13 colonies. They just don't know because, as a nation, we have little interest in history, make too many assumptions and yes, to some degree, strong liberals can only find negatives for our country.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 10:20 a.m. PST

My daughter is taking a class in college and she made several references about the Arab slave trade. She said her professor didn't seem to have any idea that such a thing existed.

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 10:27 a.m. PST

Slavery is at least as old as the Bible. Who would know that? Christians and everyone else who read it. Regarding what people know of the rest of the world; many people have mentioned to me that they did not care for history in school but have become more interested in it as they went through adult lives. It was usually said at a history museum or exhibit.
We do have to move on from our slave history and just treat everyone as equals now. I think the biggest division now is: How do we do that?

BillyNM10 Dec 2025 11:24 a.m. PST

Slavery happened, live with it! What does it matter which nation treated slaves worst, or best, in the past? The past is the past, we live in the here and now and we're all products of the past, good and bad, but we're not responsible for the past.

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 12:14 p.m. PST

Also, do not forget -- Primarily it was white people who fussed and put andcend tons laver in the west -- quite interesting for such reprobate people who are only capable of evil
Russ Dunaway

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 1:04 p.m. PST

Slavery has been a part of human existence since prehistoric times.
Essentially, it's what you got when two tribes fought over limited regional resources, and instead of slaughtering everybody, the winner realized that the losers could be forced to do labors for some food and shelter. Eventually, it became just part of life— winners feasted, slaves served.
The idea that slaves were not necessary or that slavery itself was wrong was, essentially, a very radical notion which took thousands of years to arise.

As far as I can tell, the first serious calls for the abolition of slavery in Western Civilization actually began in America. In the 17th century the colony of Massachusetts put forth a law against slavery in the colony and sent it to the King of England to grant approval. He did not, so the law could not take effect.
The abolition movements of the 18th and 19th centuries arose from these notions, and gain traction in the colonies (eventually states) outside of the tidewater areas of the early South. The US Constitution itself gave a deadline for international slave trade into the US, and one of the earliest laws passed by Congress supported its end upon the Constitutional deadline.
However, Great Britain beat the US to the punch by a year (or two— can't recall exactly).
And, for the record, Europeans did not bring the concept of slavery to the New World. It already existed. Native cultures across both American continents practiced slavery (usually of rival tribes or conquered peoples). It was the Europeans who eventually ended it.

The odd thing is that for 10,000 years it never occurred to anyone that slavery was inherently wrong. If anything, it was seen as beneficial to both the owner and the slave (who got food, shelter, clothing, and a level of protection from it— you could not abuse or kill someone else's slave and not pay a nasty penalty!).
The irony of the US was that the very Locke-ian ideals on which their new government was based inherently established that slavery was fundamentally wrong— once you recognize that men have rights, you are confronted with the truth that you can't therefore justify denying those rights to some men while extending them to other men. Jefferson knew this— and I'm pretty sure the others did too. Alas, greed overcame understanding. (Which is typically the case, to the world's sorrow.)

dapeters10 Dec 2025 1:36 p.m. PST

Is this the devil's version of counting angles dancing on pins?

nickinsomerset10 Dec 2025 1:42 p.m. PST

Billy NM,

exactly,

Tally Ho!

SBminisguy10 Dec 2025 2:51 p.m. PST

@John the OFM

. Is that supposed to say that "our slavery" was somehow more enlightened and humane by comparison?

Strawman argument. All Slavery is wrong and immoral, all bad – some was more bad. Like the East African slave trade that predates the Atlantic slave trade kidnapped and sold some last 40 million Africans into the slave markets of the Middle East. Where is the African-Saudi population? The African-Persian community? Non existent – men and boys were gelded and worked to death, women used as domestics and sex slaves, any children they had were killed. This slave trade continued into the 1890s before British naval patrols stopped it…but the awful institution still exists, millions are enslaved still in Africa, and closer to home the current POTUS announced they have rescued 62,000 child slaves in the US.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 5:07 p.m. PST

We are left with an interesting problem: Even today, the idea that slavery is wrong or certainly evil is almost entirely Western in origin. Eastern cultures have no tradition against slavery, and many nations both Eastern and Western are effectively slave states simply by their economic and government institutions (the state of North Korea may call itself "socialist" and "democratic," but the truth is the entire population are effectively slaves to the ruling elite).
So the irony is we spend so much effort condemning our past and calling slavery "evil" that we don't realize much of the world actually doesn't agree, and in fact never has agreed.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 5:23 p.m. PST

Yes, the Christian Western world put an end to slavery within their realm and that is, perhaps, the most inconvenient truth for today's progressives.

SBminisguy10 Dec 2025 5:42 p.m. PST

Col Durnford +1
Parzival +1

Indeed -- there are many untravelled folks from the West who don't realize that our concept of universal human rights is not so universally held…

YogiBearMinis10 Dec 2025 7:17 p.m. PST

To paraphrase this entire discussion:

People complain too much about how I beat my wife, say I am a bad person. Here's pictures of some other guys beating their wives worse. Mine only went to the hospital once a week, while these other guys sent their wives to the hospital maybe 6-7 times a month. I am not so bad. Lay off.

SBminisguy10 Dec 2025 8:27 p.m. PST

LOL, sure buddy! We're just responding to the politically weighted narrative pushed by the deconstructionist Left to label America as somehow the source of all slavery – like it either never existed OR it was somehow worse than every other slavery across history, and thus to continue to attack the country as morally irredeemable.

So the next question after saying yes, slavery bad -- is what did you DO about it?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 9:03 p.m. PST

I'm still wondering at the mental gymnastics that go into "our slavery wasn't as bad as their slavery". Yeah? So what??? So we didn't kill all of our slaves. Some survived to breed. Isn't that nice.
I haven't been refuted. I've been bypassed.
Solves nothing. 🤷

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 9:27 p.m. PST

You haven't been refuted because that's not actually the argument.
The argument is that on the left, America is the sole source of slavery, the sole perpetrator of the slave trade (actually, that was the Portuguese) and therefore is tainted and unworthy, and we most all apologize for the actions of our ancestors and tear down the Constitution and the governmental system in America, and pay restitution to the descendants of slaves (or anyone whom the they believe *looks* like the descendant of a slave, with of course the observation meaning that all people with brown skin must be/have been slaves, which isn't true).

The discussion is about the recognition of the reality of slavery as existing across ALL cultures and societies, and that Western Civilization, and indeed America, is the ONLY culture to fully abolish slavery of our own volition (in other places it's because Western nations forced them to end the practice… or at least hide it from plain view.) One of the things which led to this change was Christianity and its teachings on the equality of all men as brothers in Christ— an argument that sounded the death knell of slavery, however quietly rung, when it entered the Roman world 2,000 years ago.

It may well have been that Christianity softened the experience of slaves in Western world, but whether or not slaves under Western civilization and America suffered less than other cultures (and they undoubtably and provably did), is of less relevance than an admission that *we*, at least, *stopped it* and the only reason that people today use slavery as a condemnation of America is because America already condemned the practice and acted decisively to change it. It took blood and fire and continuous enforcement of law, but it changed. We see slavery as a great evil now because our ancestors forced themselves to admit that point of view. The irony is that now there is absolutely no point in condemning America or today's people for the actions of our past which were also corrected by our past. But this stick gets picked up again and again to whack the equine skeleton one more time.

So, I really don't care whether one history of slavery was greater or lesser than another. I care that slavery happens today, and that those whacking the nag's corpse of past American slavery don't seem to give a whit for real evil happening anywhere else. It's just too easy to bash a nation who won't bash one back, and then think that makes one morally superior. But that's what you get from the left— false virtue based on nothing they've ever done, and nothing that was ever done to them. And a refusal to do anything real themselves.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2025 9:34 p.m. PST

So the next question after saying yes, slavery bad -- is what did you DO about it?

Not much. I'm a Boomer. Grew up in the 50s. Slavery was over by then. I'm not THAT old enough to be for Reconstruction. But had I lived back then, I would have been one of those heroic Carpetbaggers. God bless them.
But I'm a Lincoln Republican. I oppose the Mexican American War. (Maybe that makes me a Whig? 🤷)
But I'm certainly not a RINO. I'm a Lincoln Republican. Not an asshat MAGA twerp. So I oppose slavery. I'm not quite sure about them MAGA idjits. Who knows what those clowns think. I sure don't. And their "coalition" is disintegrating now. As it should.

SBminisguy10 Dec 2025 9:36 p.m. PST

LOL – Parzival+1, we cross posted at the same time!

I'm a Lincoln Republican. Not an asshat MAGA twerp. So I oppose slavery. I'm not quite sure about them MAGA idjits.

WTH do you think is going on with illegal immigration?!? It is the Slavery of our day. Didn't see the news that ICE and CBP and the FBI have rescued 63,000 CHILDREN FROM SLAVERY??

THE HUMAN COST OF MIGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES (2021–2025)

(Compiled from GAO, CBP, IOM, UNODC, DHS OIG, DOJ, and NGO datasets)

1. Death and Injury

Between 2021 and 2025, migration through the Americas and across the U.S.–Mexico border became the deadliest corridor on record.
The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) confirmed that U.S. Border Patrol recorded ≈2,200 migrant deaths between FY2021–FY2023 — about 568 in 2021, 895 in 2022, and 704 in 2023 — while warning these figures undercount true deaths because many bodies are never recovered (GAO-24-107051).

The International Organization for Migration (IOM) separately reported 686 deaths/disappearances at the U.S.–Mexico border in 2022, calling it "the world's deadliest land migration route" (IOM Missing Migrants Project, 2023).

In the Darién Gap between Colombia and Panama — the jungle passage used by hundreds of thousands — Panamanian authorities recorded 124 bodies (2021–2023) and 174 in 2024, while IOM stresses the real toll is likely several times higher.
Inside Mexico, hundreds more migrants die annually from train accidents, road crashes, cartel violence, dehydration, and exposure, but incomplete reporting prevents a national total (IOM Regional Overview, 2023).

Altogether, thousands have died or disappeared en route to the U.S. since 2021, a scale unseen in prior decades.

Estimates total at least 10,000 deaths.

2. Robbery, Kidnapping, and Sexual Violence

The UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC, 2022) and multiple humanitarian NGOs describe robbery and kidnapping as "routine" in cartel-controlled corridors. Migrants are stopped, beaten, and forced to pay piso ("toll") payments to pass through each territory.

U.S. DOJ investigations (2022–2024) document thousands of migrants kidnapped and held in stash houses along the border, sometimes inside the U.S., until relatives wire a second payment.

Sexual assault is widespread but chronically under-reported. Field surveys by IOM and academic researchers find 10–30 % of women report sexual violence during the journey, while advocacy organizations such as Amnesty International warn that actual prevalence may be far higher due to stigma and fear of retaliation.

These acts often overlap with trafficking indicators — coercion, ransom, and extortion — making migrants both victims of crime and sources of revenue for organized networks.

Bottom line: 30% of female illegal immigrants are raped on their journey and almost all illegal immigrants experience robbery and battery on their journey

3. The Smuggling Economy and Debt-Bondage System -- almost ALL Illegal Aliens are Slaves

According to DHS, UNODC, and RAND analyses, virtually every migrant who crosses through Mexico must pay or be taxed by cartel-linked smuggling groups. U.S. Border Patrol testimony to Congress in 2022 stated plainly: "No one crosses for free."
Smuggling fees now range from $6,000 USD USD to $15,000 USD USD per person, as shown in U.S. Treasury Department 2025 sanctions filings against major human-smuggling networks.

Those unable to pay up-front are carried on "credit" (cuenta). Cartel facilitators collect the migrant's family phone numbers and addresses, then demand repayment after arrival. Threats to harm relatives are used to enforce the debt.

If the migrant cannot pay, smugglers may re-kidnap or sell them into forced labor or sexual exploitation. In many U.S. criminal cases, law enforcement found ledgers recording migrants as "debts owed" until paid.

This practice, described by UNODC as "smuggling evolving into trafficking through coercive debt enforcement," effectively recreates modern indenture and debt slavery within the United States.

Bottom line: The Cartels control 90+% of cross border human trafficking and they extract a payment of up to $15,000 USD USD which is secured by threats to family back in their home country AND places them into Debt Bondage. Almost 1/3rd of illegal migrants are "placed" (aka Sold) into a factory or farm to work off their debt as de facto Slaves. There are an estimated 1.1 MILLION SLAVES IN AMERICA!

4. Unaccompanied Children (UACs)

Between FY2021 and FY2023, the Office of Refugee Resettlement (HHS/ORR) released over 400,000 unaccompanied minors to sponsors inside the U.S. (ORR Fact Sheet, 2024).

Internal HHS data obtained by congressional oversight committees and confirmed by The New York Times (2023) show that ORR could not reach roughly 85,000 children on post-release welfare-check calls — a loss of contact, not necessarily disappearance, but indicating severe data and monitoring failures.

The DHS Office of Inspector General (OIG-25-21, March 2025) concluded that "ICE cannot effectively monitor the location and status of all unaccompanied alien children after release" and that inter-agency data sharing remains unreliable. This gap directly increases the risk of exploitation: subsequent Department of Labor investigations (2023–2024) uncovered hundreds of migrant minors working illegally in slaughterhouses, construction, and service industries — some linked to smuggling debts or coercion.

Thus, while exaggerated claims of "300,000 missing children" are unsupported, verified data still show tens of thousands of unmonitored minors and hundreds of confirmed child-labor victims.

Bottom Line: There are as any as 300,000 kids missing in the system, and a minimum of "tens of thousands" -- many trafficked into debt bondage/slavery or sex trafficked. It's a miracle the Trump Admin has saved as many as they have.

5. Post-Entry Exploitation and Modern Slavery Inside the U.S.

The National Human Trafficking Hotline records thousands of new trafficking cases annually; the majority of labor-trafficking victims are foreign-born (Polaris Project, 2020).

The Department of Justice prosecuted 181 trafficking cases in FY2023 (289 convictions).

The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services granted 1,714 T-visas to confirmed victims in FY2022 — a floor, since most victims never reach authorities.

Using conservative under-reporting multipliers (×5–×10), researchers estimate the real number of migrants in coercive labor or sexual exploitation inside the U.S. to be in the tens of thousands, possibly low hundreds of thousands.

The Walk Free Global Slavery Index (2023) models about 1.1 million people in "modern slavery" in the U.S. overall (3.3 per 1,000 residents) — including citizens and migrants; migrant victims likely form a large share.

6. The Human Equation

Taken together, these verified strands reveal a consistent picture:

Thousands die each year trying to reach the U.S.

Tens of thousands are assaulted, robbed, or raped along the way.

Virtually all pay organized-crime networks, often incurring lifelong debt bondage.

A significant share end up coerced into labor or sexual exploitation to repay that debt.

Tens of thousands of children vanish from government oversight, and hundreds are later discovered in exploitative workplaces.

Behind the statistics is a modern indenture system stretching from the jungles of Panama to U.S. factories — a human supply chain fueled by desperation, sustained by debt, and enforced by fear.

(Sources: GAO-24-107051; CBP Mortality Data 2021-2023; IOM Missing Migrants Project 2023; UNODC Global Report on Migrant Smuggling 2022; U.S. Treasury Sanctions Designations 2025; DHS OIG-25-21 (2025); HHS ORR Data 2024; DOJ Trafficking Prosecutions FY2023; Walk Free Global Slavery Index 2023; Polaris Project 2020; DOL Enforcement 2024.)

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2025 4:28 a.m. PST

+1 SBminisguy. Good info, but many will pass it by and say those MAGA idjits like they are so superior.

kiltboy11 Dec 2025 5:45 a.m. PST

link

Report by The Center for Human Rights of the Child of the Loyola School of Law, with Expertise from the American Immigration Council

Under the auspices of protecting the public from COVID-19, beginning in 2020, the Trump administration expelled thousands of unaccompanied children pursuant to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Title 42 policy (1944). The appropriation of the obscure statute was used to upend the rule of law, including federal statutes designed to protect unaccompanied migrant children. The public health policy, colloquially referred to as Title 42, was used to summarily expel children beginning in March 2020 until an injunction halted the practice in November 2020. By that time, the U.S. government had expelled nearly 16,000 children under Title 42. These expulsions were summary in nature, resulted in extreme danger to children, and were carried out without safety plans to provide care for the children.

Trump does not care about unaccompanied minors

Mark J Wilson11 Dec 2025 8:36 a.m. PST

I'd suggest that history is almost always an inconvenient truth and that includes the comment you made last week; except that most people rewrite history to tell the story they want it to because they don't like inconvenient truths.

Choctaw11 Dec 2025 8:40 a.m. PST

John, have you ever heard of sex trafficking? That is the modern slave trade of which you are either conveniently ignoring or are totally oblivious of.

SBminisguy11 Dec 2025 8:54 a.m. PST

@Choctaw

Though the focus was on how illegal aliens are essentially a new slave class in America, my post includes that, eh? But please expand on what I stated so we see a more full picture of the problem of modern slavery.

Grelber11 Dec 2025 9:06 a.m. PST

John, if you'd like to do something, send half the money you were going to use for your Christmas present of figures to Children of the Night, a non-governmental organization that tries to get kids in sex slavery off the street. childrenofthenight.org

The first time I heard of them, my thought was, "F**k this! I don't even want to live in a world where a charity like this is necessary!" Given a year to calm down, I decided that I should do something about it if I didn't like it, so I started sending them money every year.

Not everybody back in the day was a Sojourner Truth, leading slaves out of slavery, some folks provided money or information or helped in other ways.

Grelber

Grelber11 Dec 2025 9:14 a.m. PST

Getting back to the original video, I to see this as the Hegelian dialectic playing out. Americans weren't the best ad they weren't the worst, and we eventually did do something about slavery. The "History" that sells books and gets its writers on TV interviews swings back and forth from one extreme to the other, but the truth is usually somewhere there in the middle.

Grelber

SBminisguy11 Dec 2025 9:43 a.m. PST

Grelber +1

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2025 11:06 a.m. PST

@kiltboy: Define "minor."

In the US, a minor is anyone up to age 17. The US is not expelling little children— it is expelling adolescent violent gang members largely in the ages of 15-17, but some lower. Other claims of "expelling" are actually records of kidnap victims being returned to their families who live in their nations of origins. This, by the way, is not easy to do. But it is being done. Others are not being expelled, but are simply returning home with their custodial parent who are either voluntarily or involuntarily deporting to their home countries, and taking their own kids back with them— as is their right as parents, and is also as they should. ICE is not separating children from their parents where their parents can be found and confirmed. And ICE is NOT deporting small children loosely into their home countries without supervision or arrangement with a responsible adult relative. All claims otherwise are absolute bullBleeped text, fostered on gullible, hate-blinded lefties and TDS victims by equally demented media and political trolls/leaders.

Why isn't the previous administration being condemned by y'all for allowing this situation to fester in the first place!!! NONE of this would be going on if Biden's Administration (and Obama's and, frankly, Bush's) had secured the border as they claimed they had.
NONE of these kids would be here if it weren't for Biden.
NONE of these kids would be being exploited if it weren't for Biden.
NONE of these women would have been raped and forced into prostitution if it weren't for Biden.
NONE of these young men would be enslaved and forced to send their earnings to the cartels on threat of death to their families and loved ones both in the US and at home if it weren't for that demonic dementia patient, Joe "I'm from Scranton only I'm lying about that" Biden.
Oh, and Kamala Harris, his "Border Czar," who couldn't find the border and still doesn't know what "Czar" means.
10 MILLION FRICKIN' PEOPLE THEY LET IN. And they vetted NONE of them.

14Bore11 Dec 2025 11:36 a.m. PST

Slavery still happens today, it's harder to find it but many places it still exists.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2025 11:54 a.m. PST

SB, Parz and some others +1

"Slavery, in the form of modern slavery (forced labor, human trafficking, forced marriage), exists globally, with the highest prevalence in countries like North Korea, Eritrea, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, and Türkiye, often linked to political instability, authoritarianism, and migrant worker systems like the Kafala system. Other nations with high rates include Russia, Afghanistan, Kuwait, UAE, Tajikistan, South Sudan, and the Republic of the Congo, affecting millions through state-imposed labor, forced work in supply chains, and trafficking, even in developed nations like the UK.

Countries with High Prevalence (Highest per capita)

North Korea: Widespread state-imposed forced labor for infrastructure and exports.
Eritrea: Indefinite national service that amounts to forced labor.
Mauritania: Traditional hereditary slavery persists despite official abolition.
Saudi Arabia & UAE: Exploitation of migrant workers, often under the Kafala system.
Türkiye & Russia: High numbers and prevalence due to state and private exploitation.
Afghanistan, Kuwait, Tajikistan: Significant modern slavery issues.

Other Regions & Forms
Africa: Includes traditional slavery (Mauritania, Sahel), child soldiering, and trafficking (Angola, Nigeria, Togo).
Asia: Large numbers in India and China, plus forced labor in supply chains.
Europe: Human trafficking and forced labor exist, even in the UK, hidden in complex supply chains."

As to the "American Immigration Council"…. Well never mind. 😏

I will only say: any article that uses the word "migrant" or "undocumented", instead of "illegal", tells me all I need to know about them.

"unaccompanied migrant children"

I may "migrate" from Ohio to Texas. But if I cross into Mexico without going through appropriate Mexican laws, I am "illegally" there and no longer a lawful "migrant". 😉

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2025 12:14 p.m. PST

Now as to those children that "Ebeneezer" Trump and his "Evil" wife, so hate. 😏

Most of this goes unreported by the MSM or if reported, depreciated by them. Just does not fit the appropriate narrative. Just a few.

"First Lady Melania Trump has facilitated the return of a total of 15 Ukrainian children who were displaced or removed to Russia during the war, working through a back-channel initiative. 

The initiative began after Mrs. Trump wrote a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin in August 2025, which President Donald Trump hand-delivered during a summit in Alaska. An "open channel of communication" was subsequently established with Putin's team to discuss the welfare and safe return of the children. 
The reunifications occurred in two separate announcements:

* October 2025: Mrs. Trump announced that an initial eight children had been reunited with their families.
* December 2025: She announced the successful return of seven more children. 
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Mrs. Trump has stated that her representative is working directly with Russian and Ukrainian teams to continue the process, expressing her "unwavering" dedication to the safe return of children in the region. Ukraine estimates that at least 19,500 children remain unaccounted for, having been forcibly deported to Russian territory since the conflict began in February 2022. "

"the Trump administration has "rescued" or "located" more than 62,000 migrant children from dangerous conditions such as sex trafficking and forced labor between the start of the administration and early December 2025. 

These claims are part of an ongoing initiative to locate a larger group of migrant children that various reports and officials alleged the Biden administration had "lost track of," with estimates ranging from 300,000 to over 320,000. "
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"Since early 2024 (and particularly in late 2025), President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have focused on supporting children and youth through initiatives like the "Fostering the Future" program, which provides tech-based education/career aid for foster youth, and the "Trump Accounts" for childhood savings, alongside a major Executive Order in November 2025 to modernize child welfare, improve foster care transitions with federal/private partnerships, and expand opportunities for education, housing, and jobs for youth aging out of care, integrating with Melania's broader "Be Best" mission. 
Key Initiatives & Actions (2024-2025):
* "Fostering the Future" Executive Order (Nov 2025): Signed by President Trump, this order enhances support for foster youth transitioning to adulthood, focusing on:
* Modernizing child welfare data systems.
* Creating an online resource platform for foster youth.
* Building partnerships with faith-based groups and private sectors.
* Expanding access to education, career development, housing, and mentoring.
* "Trump Accounts" (Aug 2025): A new savings program allowing initial government deposits for children born after 2024, with potential parent/employer contributions, aiming for significant future wealth, notes The White House (.gov).
* Federal Jobs for Foster Youth (Nov 2025):The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) launched opportunities for foster youth through the Pathways Programs, offering internships and federal jobs with professional development, reports The American Presidency Project and WHYY.
* Global Coalition (Sept 2025): First Lady Melania Trump launched "Fostering the Future Together," a global initiative for spouses of world leaders to support children. "

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