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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 7:30 a.m. PST

Thanks must go to Thomas Mischak for donating more figures and vehicles to the Waterloo in 20mm project. A mixture of Metals, plastics and 3D prints these French Line and Guard Artillery train are currently at the mercy of HM's Postal Service but should shortly be with the Boss. Photographed in poor light, awful white balance, out of focus, off my phone camera as they are, they will look far better once on the growing model

and the lettering did get a matt varnish after these photos (I was waiting for some temperature rise in the UK!)

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Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 8:11 a.m. PST

Very, very nice!

Jim

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 8:38 a.m. PST

Top notch work.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 9:45 a.m. PST

Thanks, but honestly not the best photography. Poor focussing and washed-out colour saturation. Frankly it is too easy to just point the phone and click, rather than set up a tripod, make a dozen adjustments to the camera, position spot lights etc.

It is called laziness.

The lettering was fun, other than when I looked at one that read "Train d'Artilleree" as i was working out from the central letter alternating right and left and missed the "I"

bobspruster Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 12:21 p.m. PST

The quality shines through any iffy photography. Beautiful work!

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 3:52 p.m. PST

Nice! Lettering really well done! Beyond what I could hope to accomplish myself.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 6:15 p.m. PST

That's rather special

CHRIS DODSON26 Nov 2025 4:17 a.m. PST

A worthy addition to the project as always Mr.D.

It's a pity about the Garde train shabraques but your modelling and painting reign supreme as ever.

Best wishes,

Chris

CHRIS DODSON26 Nov 2025 4:57 a.m. PST

Ps. The writing is lovely.

Thomas suggested and I have adopted acrylic pens for fine work.

You can get different colours and nib sizes.

Great for dots etc.

Best wishes,

Chris

Captain Siborne26 Nov 2025 7:36 a.m. PST

These are wonderful and will be a lovely addition to the project. I am so grateful.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP26 Nov 2025 11:43 a.m. PST

I just thank HM's Postal service for getting them there. (Is it not strange to compare their high prices and poor reliability of letter delivery, with that of parcels, far heavier and sizeable?)

The Guard Shabraques are what I could find basically. I think Franznap do the leather saddle version? I could even claim they are NCOs, but then no sheepskin and instead pistol holders.

Thomas told me about the acrylic pens and I ordered them immediately. Even the pen version is too thick for such lettering though. I used waterproof ink, days to dry and a matt varnish on a reasonably warm day (in the garage anyway). I might try to do the lettering even less tall, but some letters e.g R,G or S get tricky.

Thanks again to all. I spent yesterday drilling holes in my finger and thumb tips doing conversions, until the good Captain S told me how to do it! They are sore and really swollen today.

CHRIS DODSON26 Nov 2025 12:00 p.m. PST

Hello again.

Try Leto pens from Amazon.

They go down to 0.1 mm!

The Itallieri team has three blanket horses per set that make good Guard horses.

Franznap do the Guard saddle as well.

Upto £135.00 GBP of orders is customs free ( depending on the budget today).

Chris

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP26 Nov 2025 12:25 p.m. PST

Good point. I have tended to ignore the Italeri/Esci French gunners.

They are in a well-before-1815 rig and the colpack needs much enhancement (but then looks great). The horses are indeed nice, but, as with Zvezda, every horse is a wheel horse, with that harness. Then the collar looks more like a British than a French which had that wooden "horse-shoe" shape. The ridden horses do have a blanket actually, as you say, wrong for Garde Imperiale.Franznap have it right. But they are slender, while the humans are emaciated (but what sculpting)

Finally the limber, OK, not quite British, but surely French about 1830? I accept the idea that HA used summat like that, but only if articulated with a small caisson (even that I actually doubt until after 1815)

Now Leto I had not encountered……off there now!

CHRIS DODSON26 Nov 2025 2:45 p.m. PST

The Itallieri set is a nonsense with the drivers being horse whipped by gunners astride an ACW style limber.

The A frame was the standard French artillery ‘limber' with the coffret astride the artillery piece. Gunners in the HA rode separate mounts, foot chaps walked.

You make a good point about the collars but the blanket clad horses are a good base material for Garde horses whilst keeping costs down.

Chris

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