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Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 12:02 a.m. PST

These are my nominees.
Midway
USS Constitution vs HMS Guerriere
USS Kearsarge vs.CSS Alabama
Battle of the Philippine Sea
Naval Battle of Guadalcanal
Battle of Surigao Strait

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 1:45 a.m. PST

Battle off Samar.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 2:15 a.m. PST

USS Constitution vs HMS Guerriere? – really?
Constitution was a far bigger ship with a thicker hull, bigger guns. One sided just about covers it!

Murvihill12 Nov 2025 5:03 a.m. PST

I'd put Mobile Bay in there too.

OSCS7412 Nov 2025 5:44 a.m. PST

Herkybird

The USN got to rub good ole American apple pie into the face of an over confident and smug Royal naval captain.

Guerriere's Captain James Richard Dacres knew what he was getting into and still engaged. He FAFO.

OSCS7412 Nov 2025 5:44 a.m. PST

Midway

Griefbringer12 Nov 2025 6:21 a.m. PST

Midway was certainly a fine hour for the naval aviation (and maybe less famously for the naval intelligence) at a critical time.

However, it is to my knowledge also a battle where the surface craft never came within a shot of the enemy surface craft.

Wackmole912 Nov 2025 6:53 a.m. PST

Battle of Surigao Strait: October 24-25, 1944. Most complete victory in USN history

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 7:15 a.m. PST

Midway for major victories

Battle of Samar for all out courage – Taffy 3 had zero chance against Kurita's battlewagons, but engaged them to save the Leyte beachhead and the supply ships/transports for the 130,000 men in the Sixth Army

Red Jacket Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 9:29 a.m. PST

Bonhomme Richard and Serapis: "Sir, I have not yet begun to fight"

Mobile Bay: "Damn the torpedoes, FULL SPEED AHEAD"

Manila Bay: "You may fire when ready Gridley"

Battle off Samar: "Come-on, we can take'em" s/ (Gimli to Aragorn)

Honorable mention, Naval Battle of Guadalcanal

I did not include naval battles that involved only (mainly) aircraft, otherwise the list would be much too long. The Philippine Sea and Midway would be top contenders if I included naval air battles. Surigao Strait was an impressive battle and great payback, however, defending what was in actuality a naval BANZAI charge did not rise to the level of an epic naval battle, in my humble opinion.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 9:51 a.m. PST

An alleged comment by a sailor at the Battle off Samar: "We're sucking them into 40mm range!"
To me that says it all about their courage.

DeRuyter12 Nov 2025 10:05 a.m. PST

+1 Red Jacket.

John Paul Jones' victory was even more important given the fledgling status of the USN at the time. There is a reason his tomb is at the USNA (worth a visit along with the museum.)

Several earlier ones:

Lake Erie – "Don't Give up the Ship" (ok I know the Brits were outgunned).

Lake Champlain (Battle of Plattsburgh). The "False Nile". Stopped the British invasion of New England and gave the US leverage in the peace talks.

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 10:15 a.m. PST

Mobile Bay

William Warner12 Nov 2025 10:22 a.m. PST

Battle off Samar

BillyNM12 Nov 2025 11:09 a.m. PST

It so much depends on what criteria you are using to define 'Finest".

I would go with spirit in the face of adversity, and as such the way they bounced back and took the fight to the enemy surely makes Pearl Harbour a contender.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 12:13 p.m. PST

Midway- real shock and awe.

Bonhomme Richard vs Serapis. Yes, J P Jones is at the Academy for a reason.

Samar- pure, raw courage by surface and air sailors.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 1:58 p.m. PST

OCS74

I think your assessment of Dacre's actions is a little…creative.

The captain of Constitution (Capt. Hull) certainly thought the Guerriere put up a creditable fight, as did the Admiralty in the UK. They also agreed with his decision to engage.
The Guerriere was an older French frigate captured in 1808 and was not in the best condition.

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Personal logo KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 2:11 p.m. PST

Mobile Bay

Without a doubt the finest performance of a US Admiral in direct combat with the enemy. Twice he was lashed to the ships rigging as he observed and commanded the fleet during the battle. Leadership probably only rivaled by Nelson.

His iconic "Damn the Torpedoes!" is a phrase that will live forever, not just U.S. Naval History but ALL history as an example of determination and perseverance despite any obstacle.

Kim

Red Jacket Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 3:42 p.m. PST

OFM – I had never heard that but it has the ring of being true. I frequently think of what I would do in similar circumstances and inevitably, I conclude that there is no way I could be that brave. Thank God that there are men who are.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian12 Nov 2025 4:25 p.m. PST

Samar was as fine an example of courage and skill in the face of overwhelming odds as any Navy in history.

Among instances of pure spirit, the USS Houston going down fighting in the Java Sea.

The H Man12 Nov 2025 5:09 p.m. PST

I'm tempted to say pearl harbour.

Getting ambushed isn't perhaps fine.

But the efforts during the event perhaps.

It's certainly likely to be the US naval event most people remember.

It tops my list.

In fact it could be said that it was Japan's least finest moment.

So perhaps US pulls it out of not a fine moment for that alone?

I guess most everything else is ships at sea, less landings, and mostly intangible to most people.

But we have all seen 9/11 footage.

I'd put pearl harbour in the same basket.

It was not the attackers finest moment, perhaps immediately, but not on going.

And they both forged the steal that would ultimately run them through.

Has the world learnt nothing?

Yeah, I'll pick Pearl Harbour.

HMS Exeter Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2025 5:22 p.m. PST

Samar was America's Thermopylae.

When the Japanese turned away, an American sailor cried out, "Hey, they're getting away." Or so the story goes.

epturner12 Nov 2025 6:34 p.m. PST

Since my impending Master's thesis is on the Quasi War with France, I'd have to say it was the establishment and construction of the Navy in 1797-1798, along with the acceptance of the Subscription Warships and the subsequent campaign in the West Indies.

The US Navy was founded in 1798, not the crap being peddled as 1775, and their finest moment came in their founding when President John Adams decreed they needed a Department of the Navy to manage them.

Truxtun, not John Paul Jones, is the true heart of the US Navy's fighting tradition. Jones was a mercenary Bleeped text. Truxtun (and his fellows, including John Barry) were real Patriots. Truxtun and USS Constellation are the embodiment of what the common public expects of the US Navy. John Hoxse's memoir proves it.

I'll put my several years of research against anyone who wants to say otherwise.

Eris

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