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photocrinch30 Oct 2025 2:21 p.m. PST

Come on by and join the fun! Beautiful troops originally painted by Richard Tennant.

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Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP30 Oct 2025 8:28 p.m. PST

Nice!

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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2025 7:16 a.m. PST

A great addition to any old school collection.

photocrinch31 Oct 2025 8:26 a.m. PST

Thanks to you both. 5 more regiments to refresh, then I'll start painting some new ones with some old minifig s series cavalry and Grenadiers.

BillyNM31 Oct 2025 2:45 p.m. PST

Delightful, are the officer and ensign figures HH or modified figures?

photocrinch31 Oct 2025 3:03 p.m. PST

Thanks BillyNM. The ensign and flag bearer are HH-SN6, probably cast in the states by Dave Clayton. link

The Colonel is a Der Kriegspieler mounted General, which for the most part are copies of Hinton Hunt figures, with a head transplant from one of the unused Spanish rankers.

rmaker31 Oct 2025 4:22 p.m. PST

Correction: Der Kriegspieler figures were NOT "copies" of Hinton Hunt. Duke Seifried had a license from Marcus Hinton, since the latter had a thing about trans-Atlantic sales. Duke also designed new figure, some of which Hinton put into production in Britain.

photocrinch01 Nov 2025 5:46 a.m. PST

I believe the correct phrase is Duke Siegfried "claimed" to have a license, but as I knew neither Marcus, or Duke, who can say. What is clear is that Der Kriegspielers were either direct or slightly modified casting of Hinton Hunt retail castings, not the Masters, as they are significantly smaller and thinner as one would expect from recast retail figures.

Dave Clayton produced a line of Hinton Hunt figures in the US that were likely licensed, but this was after the original moulds were either lost or worn out, and in some cases the masters were not available for new moulds to be made from I suspect. The Dave Clayton Hinton Hunt line has far greater detail than Der Kriegspieler, and in most cases is a much closer match to Hinton Hunt in terms of size and casting of quality.

There is a nice summary of the ranges here with this section on Der Kriegspieler: link

4) Der Kriegspieler's range of "modified" Hinton Hunt figures was sold quite openly in the US in gaming stores and at conventions despite protests from the manufacturer and from various British wargames worthies such as Don Featherstone who denounced the situation in characteristically forthright style in Wargamer's Newsletter in 1974. As one American correspondent to WN complained that not only were the pirated figures being brazenly offered for sale they also cost more than the originals!

5) Der Kriegspeiler's range included a number of converted figures that did not appear on the Hinton Hunt lists. These included (figure codes are Der Kriegspieler):-

169/1 Neapolitan Legere infantry, assaulting

170/1 Westphalian infantry, repelling

176/1 Swiss Neuchatel battalion, on guard

177/1 Wurtenburg Jaeger, charging

180/1 Joseph Napoleon Spanish infantry

232/1 Hannover landwehr, advancing

242/1 Dutch-Belgian Militia

6) Der Kriegspieler Napoleonic artillery crews and command figures were sold in groups of 8 and 4 respectively and cannons came in sets with limber and horses. However, the cannon may not have been Hinton Hunt in origin (see next note)

7) On the subject of US piracy Donald A. Wolff of Columbus, Ohio wrote in the Wargamer's Newsletter of January 1974: "Two "producers" of figures are making copies of the Hinton Hunt figures. However, both are rather marginal and sometimes very poor copies. These copies do make alterations which Hinton Hunt does not carry: Brunswick Light Infantry, Swedish Guard Infantry, Croat/Dalmatian Infantry, Russian Infantry in greatcoat and kiwer, Austrian/Prussian/Russian standard bearers and Smolensk militia with pikes. I am still trying to figure out whose artillery they are copying (I suspect Hinchliffe)."

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